69 points

I got a sales job offer on the spot by first highlighting the limited use of a single pen and without extra’s on hand its negative business impacts. Then stated I had tons of pens available in my car and positioned selling them at least 100, but recommended they acquire 1000+ as this prevents potential issues plus gets them a better deal. Pretty solid approach in my experience.

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68 points

Selling is an art… and this is why I’m not in sales. I have absolutely no interest in trying to convince somebody to buy something.

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True sales is just filling a need, sometimes the customer knows they need it but others are unaware of it. Good sales reps will not sell something unless it makes sense for everyone involved.

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Yea, I was never exactly in sales (Geek Squad in store employee is the closest I ever came) but I remember thinking everyone who was like lets get rid of commission in retail sales were very mislead. I still remember the difference in Sears employees in the 90s when I first got a PC and the salesman actually knew to look at the box of the game I was trying to buy and make sure it’d run on my PC before selling it to me. I also remember them knowing about the stuff they sold. This is because with commission, even in small towns you could make a career of it and you’d have actual experienced staff in the stores. As far as I could ever tell, the good salespeople wanted you to trust them, and not to just make a one time huge sale - they wanted you to come back again and again.

Once they all went to non-commission, I recall that being a “selling point” of the stores, but now all you had was a rotating cast of highschool and college summer workers who cared exactly as much as minimum wage paid them to care… i.e. not at all. And they occasionally became unable to even read the boxes they were “selling”. It turned them into less efficient cash register attendants.

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The only sales job I’ve ever had was like this, luckily for me. We were taught to spend more time listening than talking. It was very low pressure, and more like problem solving than your stereotypical, pushy kind of selling. I would have been terrible at that.

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21 points

Sales has fuck-all to do with filling a need. Sales is the invention of problems for which the only solution is the liberal application of money.

Engineering is filling a need.

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23 points

Isn’t the whole idea of the pen sale pitch that you basically have to ignore the pen?

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Pen boy : Do not try and sell the pen. That’s impossible. Instead… only try to realize the truth.

Neo : What truth?

Pen boy : There is no pen.

Neo : There is no pen?

Pen boy : Then you’ll see, that it is not the pen that sells, it is only yourself.

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12 points

Yes. As long as the answer doesn’t focus on the pen itself then it’s a good answer.

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“Okay, so let’s say you hire me as a senior engineer. I put in a request for a gross of these pens for my office; price 50¢ apiece; total seventy-two bucks plus shipping and tax. Do you sign off on it?”

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Bullshit that only true bullshitters can spew.

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