Four years after the Raspberry Pi 4 shipped, today the Raspberry Pi 5 is launching with a much improved SoC leading to significant performance gains.

The Raspberry Pi 5 is designed to deliver a 2~3x performance improvement over the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 features a quad-core Cortex-A76 processor that clocks up to 2.4GHz, compared to the four Cortex-A72 cores found in the Raspberry Pi 4 that only clocked up to 1.8GHz. The graphics are also much-improved with now having an 800MHz VideoCore VII graphics processor over the VideoCore VI graphics with the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 is capable of driving two 4K @ 60Hz displays and features 4K @ 60 HEVC decode hardware capabilities.

Also interesting with the Raspberry Pi 5 is that it features in-house silicon in the form of the RP1 “southbridge” used for much of the board’s I/O capabilities. This southbridge should yield faster USB I/O along with other I/O bandwidth upgrades like a doubling of the peak SD card performance. The Raspberry Pi 5 also features a single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface for improved connectivity.

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They’re gonna prioritise companies again and make it impossible for normal people to get it, right?

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It’s not impossible to get it if you try.

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I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted since it’s been dead-simple finding stock of Pi 4s the last few months.

https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PI4

The Pi 5s are probably going to be a little rough to find the first few months as with any new Pi launch because everyone swarms stores for them. Like the 4 and 3 that came before it.

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Hmm, so the chip supply issue is sorted? When are we getting the original price back? Never that’s when.

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Yeah, it didn’t take me long to buy a Pi by just following that site for less than a week.

It’s quite odd that I keep getting downvoted and you keep getting up voted.

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I think that the rpi4 came out before the supply chain issue caused by Covid.

Before that, it was easy to get a Rpi. It was an issue getting any kind of electronic parts for any kind of project. You had to secure your supply for your production first before starting a project. It was never seen before.

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My issue with their distribution methods is that they prioritized business customers during that time. They still produced RPis, but preferentially sent them to companies who use them in their products. This is completely removed from their original mission.

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That’s a fair point. I can see why they prioritized business customers, but their mission is aimed at education.

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They admitted to supplying hundreds of thousands a month to bulk customers over the last 2 years while none made their way to consumer resellers.

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Plenty made their way to consumers, they were just snapped up immediately

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You’re wrong. They’re not GOING to. They already have and won’t stop. They’re copying Nvidia.

Build your business off the backs of consumers and good will until you don’t need them anymore. Then fuckem.

They’re doing a great at capitalism.

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Not bumping the PCIe lanes to 4-8 is disappointing. So is now requiring active cooling, not using USB-C for the USB3 ports, and PoE being unusable without a hat.

It’s probably time to add a higher end “pro” line to let the “education” line focus on power efficiency, tiny form factors, and low cost.

Also, did they fire the cop they hired?

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You’re demanding a bunch more high performance connectivity - which means high performance silicon to run all those lanes - and complaining about the active cooling in the same post.

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Did you read the second sentence? RPi needs to pick a lane, or have two targeted product lines.

For example, the MacBook Air is fanless with a lot more IO, and the Thinkpad X13s is also fanless with a lot more IO.

They are obviously not direct competitors, but they are examples of hi performance Arm silicon on the market.

The RPi is still kind of crappy, but it now requires active cooling. Crappy without a need for active cooling that’s more forgivable.

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And for this reason the perscribed they split the product into two SKUs

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The 4 already supposedly needed cooling

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Just a decent heatsink

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This is great news… for business customers, as they’re those are the only channels they’ll be available through.

Well, unless you don’t mind spending $200-$400 per unit to scalpers, who magically never seem to run out of stock.

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This is great news… for business customers, as they’re those are the only channels they’ll be available through.

Could you elaborate, as I would imagine you’d be able to buy it from anywhere that wants to sell it, if not online?

Edit: As I read further into this conversation a comment stood out for me that gave me understanding on what the original comment I was replying to might have been speaking about.

They’re gonna prioritise companies again and make it impossible for normal people to get it, right?

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Ever since the pandemic they’ve diverted 99% of all available inventory to business only sales channels. They blamed the chip shortage, but it’s been several years now ongoing.

You can only find the lowest tier crap stock, old stock, or scalped stock, from retail sellers.

This is very well documented and even websites setup to check stock across multiple resellers in the hopes of finding that 1% of retail allocation.

They sold out the community that built them up in favor of a business to business sales model. Don’t let their PR team, or their fanboys, tell you otherwise.

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That’s the problem. They’re always out of stock.

https://www.adafruit.com/search?q=raspberry pi 4

https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/233

You’d even be hard pressed to find one at a Micro Center or some other physical store.

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I just managed to get one like a month ago. After watching all the retailers I could find for like 2 years. Eventually I found a site that aggregated them to make it easier but it was Still like 3 months before I caught someone with stock in time to buy it. Figures the next one would come out right after all that…

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I can find a raspberry pi 4 set for like 80-90€, but it’s on AliExpress…

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You sure it’s not a knock off being sold as the real thing? Or maybe it doesn’t matter if the hardware is the same.

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I’m not sure, it’s AliExpress after all lol

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Obviously I got a RPi4 just a couple months ago, after struggling for 2-3 years… Well, crap.

EDIT: at least the prices didn’t seem to have increases significantly over the previous version.

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I was going to say, will I ever be able to buy one?

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Are you talking about RPi4 or RPi5? RP4 can be now found easily, at least in my region (Spain).

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In the US they are still hard to get. When they are in stock they still sell out in a day

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I was able to buy 2 Pi4’s while trying to source 20.

They cost 2 and 5 times the expected price.

I ended up converting the project to use VIA industrial x86 boards instead. Reliable supply and reliable price.

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Yes. Availability of RPi4 has been low to none over the past 2-3 years.

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Good news, this hasn’t been the case for the last few months: https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PI4

The CM4s are a different story.

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There were a lot of supply chain issues in general that also affected the RP.

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This is really a myth, they make a lot of pis every month and have done for a very long time. 99% of them go to industry instead of end users.

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I know

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why in the hell are RPs do damn proprietary?

Never understood why other company can’t produce clones for ultra cheap.

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