Four years after the Raspberry Pi 4 shipped, today the Raspberry Pi 5 is launching with a much improved SoC leading to significant performance gains.
The Raspberry Pi 5 is designed to deliver a 2~3x performance improvement over the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 features a quad-core Cortex-A76 processor that clocks up to 2.4GHz, compared to the four Cortex-A72 cores found in the Raspberry Pi 4 that only clocked up to 1.8GHz. The graphics are also much-improved with now having an 800MHz VideoCore VII graphics processor over the VideoCore VI graphics with the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 is capable of driving two 4K @ 60Hz displays and features 4K @ 60 HEVC decode hardware capabilities.
Also interesting with the Raspberry Pi 5 is that it features in-house silicon in the form of the RP1 “southbridge” used for much of the board’s I/O capabilities. This southbridge should yield faster USB I/O along with other I/O bandwidth upgrades like a doubling of the peak SD card performance. The Raspberry Pi 5 also features a single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface for improved connectivity.
Wow the foundation really hates the idea of putting reliable dependable storage on their device.
Like would it kill you to have an M2 slot?
Honestly, given the improvement of every other capability in the boards over the years, it’s really mad we don’t have an m.2 slot as an option. Even if they ended up having to create a slightly more expensive SKU (which they seem to have no issues with given the memory options for the Pi4), I don’t think anyone would complain
Edit: apparently there’s gonna be an M.2 HAT, so that’s something at least, would prefer an option to have it on the board and the GPIO header available for something else
The single least reliable part of a raspberry pi is the storage. Always has been.
I don’t even need more professor performance, because the storage performance is the worst part.
Likely an issue with the pci express lane not being able to handle nvme and everything else.
I thought that might be the case too, but the launch page has a line that suggests an M.2 HAT will use the new PCI-E interface, so it does make you wonder why they couldn’t include the connector on the board. Might just be me, but I feel like people have been asking for this since they gave up asking for a SATA connector
Looking at photos of the Pi5 board, the PCIe pins are a separate ribbon connector. I am guessing the M2 hat will just use the GPIO pins for power and hardware detection, and pass the others through.
I agree it would be have been useful to have an M2 slot (or maybe eMMC connector) integrated indirectly to the board. Other similar SBCs have done so. Perhaps the Pi designers were concerned about board space or thermal considerations. I imagine they want to keep the form factor as similar as possible each version, so they maybe can’t make drastic changes to the board layout.
An M.2 makes it really difficult for a kid to pop the card out, plug it into a computer and flash it.
I think RPI Foundation is still holding onto its education-targeted roots.
I think the compute models are more targeted at the industrial/commercial side of requirements.
And any homelab enthusiast would probably be better buying a cheap used/refurbished thin-client
Yes, I think the Foundation still favours SD cards because they are cheap and easy to use. Which suits the Pi’s original base of education, hobbyists etc.
Of course that doesn’t stop the market seeing things differently and dropping Pis straight in to production use cases instead of moving up to the Compute modules.
I think the SD card problems are a little exaggerated too. They may not be the fastest but they are reliable enough if reputable brands are used.
Well, personally I could do without and if it reduces costs I’m for it. Raspberry pi was always about being cheap.
Yeah, this should be higher up. Pi’s have usually been around the $35-40 mark, and this one is going to be $100. My B, B+ came as a kit with power supply, SD card, and a cheapo case for $45. Now you can’t even get just the 3B+ for less than $50. My Pi’s are doing boring, simple work like running my 3D printer, running PiHole and a VPN, or being a print server. None need $100 computers to do the job. I guess as long as earlier Pi versions are still available, NBD.
$100 is starting to price out of the cheap educational/hobbyist/experimenter range and send people looking elsewhere.
Voltage is potentially a concern. Can you run the Pi and a M.2 drive on 5V 3A?
I think M.2 would require controller of sorts and would consume considerably more power. However nothing is stopping them from implementing flash chip. Even 8GB is more than enough for what device is normally used.
I think M.2 would require controller of sorts and would consume considerably more power.
Pretty sure electrically it’s just a Mini PCIe slot, which it already has a controller for.
They’re gonna prioritise companies again and make it impossible for normal people to get it, right?
I think that the rpi4 came out before the supply chain issue caused by Covid.
Before that, it was easy to get a Rpi. It was an issue getting any kind of electronic parts for any kind of project. You had to secure your supply for your production first before starting a project. It was never seen before.
They admitted to supplying hundreds of thousands a month to bulk customers over the last 2 years while none made their way to consumer resellers.
My issue with their distribution methods is that they prioritized business customers during that time. They still produced RPis, but preferentially sent them to companies who use them in their products. This is completely removed from their original mission.
I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted since it’s been dead-simple finding stock of Pi 4s the last few months.
https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PI4
The Pi 5s are probably going to be a little rough to find the first few months as with any new Pi launch because everyone swarms stores for them. Like the 4 and 3 that came before it.
Yeah, it didn’t take me long to buy a Pi by just following that site for less than a week.
It’s quite odd that I keep getting downvoted and you keep getting up voted.
Hmm, so the chip supply issue is sorted? When are we getting the original price back? Never that’s when.
What annoys me about all these RPi articles is the praise for improved performance and all the projects you can do with it, etc. But you can’t find the damn thing to purchase. It’s always out of stock everywhere I look. So much so I have given up on it completely. There are other competitor products with lower price that are fully compatible or I’ll just end up using old phone.
They are way easier to find now than last year. Which ruined my little home project
Are you looking at the price in other currencies? Because all the US ones are $15
Wow, can’t wait to not be able to buy one!
*cries in third world country. Is it the same in North America (Canada and USA) and Europe?
I have just been buying small Linux computers on Amazon and hooking them up to Arduinos for all my projects. I probably won’t buy a raspberry pi again since it’s working so well
There are many small DIY computers on the market now, not just Raspberry Pi.
Orange Pi, Banana Pi, Asus Tinkerboard, …
Those usually don’t have delivery issues.
The only problem is the shitty support they have. Just bought an orange pi zero 3 and can’t find any documentation for using the gpios
Well, maybe if I was an experience coder capable of writing my own libraries that would help. Even still, this must be a new board, the documentation for it is abysmal. On the opi forums people are asking what gpio libraries work on this board, and the answer seems to be, well you will have to write you’re own for now, ok, but not all of us are at that level. I didn’t realize this was such a new board when I bought it, and support on the off brands is known to be much more sparse. I have just finished my second animatronic halloween decoration for my yard, and bought this because I can’t get any more rpi’s at the moment. With rpi, there is a great libraries to work with, and tons of good documentation on how to use them. It’s great to pump out cheap alternatives, but without software and documentation support, they aren’t really that useful.
