Summary
House Democrats, led by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, introduced the We the People Amendment to overturn Citizens United, aiming to curb corporate influence in elections.
The constitutional amendment asserts that constitutional rights apply only to individuals, not corporations, and mandates full disclosure of political contributions.
Jayapal cited Elon Musk’s massive campaign spending and subsequent financial gains as proof of the ruling’s harm.
Advocacy groups praised the move, calling it necessary to combat corporate power and dark money in politics, but Republicans have not backed the proposal.
This is one of the single biggest changes we can make to our current electoral system.
Should’ve done this in 2021. This could’ve changed the 2024 election entirely.
What did they do in 2021 instead?
Probably nothing else going on really. They’re just lazy and fat off corporate cash piles, obviously.
Nothing. That’s the problem. Democrats are so afraid to play an opposition party cause it will negatively affect party leadership and top donors. They want the status quo and are more than likely benefiting from the Trump regime in many ways.
Make no bones about it: top Democrats have been complacent with a hostile takeover of the US government because it is benefiting them.
Progressive Democrats and party newcomers are seeing this reality. They tried to play the game for a bit but got burned like Bernie did. Some democrats are finally growing a backbone to stand up against geriatric party leadership.
Make no bones about it: top Democrats have been complacent with a hostile takeover of the US government because it is benefiting them.
I mean, I’d make a few bones about it. The best time to be an excellent Progressive party is 50 years ago. The next best time is now, though.
I’m surprised how quickly people forgot the very first bill the Democrats introduced in 2021 addressed this very topic. The Republicans in the senate killed it.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1
Passed House (03/03/2021) For the People Act of 2021
"This bill addresses voter access, election integrity and security, campaign finance, and ethics for the three branches of government.
Specifically, the bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.
The bill requires states to establish independent redistricting commissions to carry out congressional redistricting.
Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including sharing intelligence information with state election officials, supporting states in securing their election systems, developing a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions, establishing in the legislative branch the National Commission to Protect United States Democratic Institutions, and other provisions to improve the cybersecurity of election systems.
Further, the bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices.
The bill addresses ethics in all three branches of government, including by requiring a code of conduct for Supreme Court Justices, prohibiting Members of the House from serving on the board of a for-profit entity, and establishing additional conflict-of-interest and ethics provisions for federal employees and the White House.
The bill requires the President, the Vice President, and certain candidates for those offices to disclose 10 years of tax returns."
Biden could have arrested Trump on January 21st, and that would have been that
There was less than a 0٪ chance that they could have passed a constitutional ammendment in 2021.
It should have been done immediately, when the ruling came down in 2010, when the Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate, and Obama was the President.
I was one year away from graduating college at the time, getting simultaneous bachelor’s degrees in Econ and Poli Sci, trying to explain to people how bad the situation was, and how this may be our only shot at fixing it.
But uh, nope, Obama had already won, the Dems had already swept the House and Senate to near, but not quite super majorities, and most Dem voters were too busy gloating over these victories and pretending that they meant Republicans would never have power over the Federal government again, and actually? you’re an asshole for implying Obama and the Dems aren’t perfect, in fact you sound racist, get away from me.
Instead, that was indeed the highwater mark for Dem control in the Federal government (in the last 20 years), and they squandered it, then lost some House and Senate seats, then doomed us all by ratfucking Bernie to run the perfect encapsulation of their sanctimonious and haughty elitism, Hillary, who lost to a rapist, racist, fraudlent fascist.
cue curb your enthusiasm theme
I’d argue rank choice is more important.
If you give people actual elections, it shouldn’t matter how much money is spent on campaigns
All someone needs is $1,000 for a good website. Lower the barrier to let them on the ballot and let people rank them, and you’ll solve the problem.
I would love ranked choice. It completely flopped on the state ballot in Colorado this past election because both parties are completely against it
would have been more useful when you had any kind of power to get a bill passed, but thanks anyway i guess
Stow that shit. This is exactly what they need to be doing. They need to make the argument to the American people that they have better ideas and a better plan for America, and then create a voting record for Congress so they can beat them in the next election. Of course it won’t pass, but if they give up without even trying, then the Nazis can act like they are the only option.
I agree, but i aint gonna stow it. Why didnt they introduce it when they were able to maybe pass it? Im not going to refrain from criticizing them just because worse people are in power.
when they were able to maybe pass it?
Lmfao when was this? A constitutional amendment of any kind has zero chance of getting passed by anyone and hasn’t in the entire time the Citizens United ruling has existed.
Democrats around that time could barely muster enough votes from the Republicans to pass the milquetoast, conservative ACA via simple majority. You’re deluded if you think Democrats ever could’ve plausibly reversed Citizens United via amendment.
Why didnt they introduce it when they were able to maybe pass it?
And when the fuck do you daydream that was?
How long have you been in national politics? Because it sounds like, y’know, not long.
They should have been submitting this every session since the citizens united decision. Even with no hope of success, they could be forcing every member of Congress to openly declare their loyalty to the oligarchs.
But, if they did that, then the oligarchs would think they were disloyal.
Their argument to the American people doesn’t matter. Millions of Americans are still happy with what’s happening and we have a government that will use violence to get what it wants. We need a coalition of countries to step on America’s dick and grind it into the ground. We deserve it for the shit we’ve done around the world.
Millions of Americans are wrong. What’s your plan for that? Violence? Reeducation camps for shitbags? Conservatives are everywhere, and they’re all salivating to take advantage of the chaos created by the fall of Rome. If you think getting our collective dick stepped on is going to result in a better tomorrow, you need to pick up a history book.
Bullshit. They should not be focusing on zero chance gestures while real people are struggling. They choose this BECAUSE it wont pass so they don’t have to fight to help people, it’s a distraction that not only wont stop fascism, but give it time to deepen its roots while they waste energy on an impossible task.
A bill can’t overturn a SCOTUS ruling on the constitutionality of something. That’s why they are proposing an ammendment.
So they throw this impossible task out there, something they can put all their energy and rhetoric into which will ultimately not bear results in my lifetime, and they can say see I was fighting against this tyranny.
This is such a bald-face transparent PR move I hope everyone sees it for what it is.
They’ve had multiple chances to fix this when they had real power. They’re idiots.
They’re idiots
They’re idiots, or… they are insincere.
The reality that people who vote Democrat loyally, especially white, middle income, NPR listening, card carrying liberals, need to come to terms with is this:
The Democratic party doesn’t work for you.
The leadership of the Democratic party, it’s party managers, the ones who hold real power: they do not share your same interests. It’s always been performative. The vast majority of Democrats never meant any of it. The few that do are refused any real leadership or power. Every time they’ve had the votes to do something, anything, there is always a technical or procedural excuse. And when they now the thing can’t pass, they use the opportunity to show their bonafide: precisely when it has no cost. The current political situation were in would be impossible without the weakness and persistent cuckoldry coming from the Democratic party.
It’s a waste of time to invest further in the Democratic party. They were never going to come to your rescue, now less than ever when they are most needed. American leftist already knows this, it’s time for the American liberal to develop a sense of shame at their unwillingness to oppose the baseless, performative bullshit they’ve come to accept as politics from the DNC.
We need a new political project. The DNC is cooked.
American democracy has been dead for decades. Congress hasn’t GAF what the people want for decades. Trump and his minions are acting the way they do only because the plutocracy no longer needs to hide this fact. https://www.good.is/Politics/20-years-of-data-reveals-that-congress-doesnt-care-what-you-think
“But they didn’t have a 90 seat advantage in the Senate and 400 house seats and the presidency!!! How do you expect them to get anything done without that?!?” - centrists
I literally see these every week here. Like somehow when they have a majority they are unable to pass any laws, and when in a minority, they can’t stop anything Republicans do.
Like every time there is a majority, every democrat just is unable to do focus on anything but one bill. That one bill is all can be voted on, all anyone can vote on, and all that can be focused on. Any other legislation by legislators can’t exist.
Well, yes. This. Just reduce the numbers appropriately so it’s not a strawman.
The American people have voted against democracy. If they don’t have a solid majority of the vote, they can’t do much.
Not to defend the spineless Dems or this performative stunt, but it would be pretty difficult to pass at any point. They would need a lot of Republicans to join.
But I am picking nits. There’s no good reason not to push for this while they’re in power. If they had thrown their weight behind it in 2023, and forced Republicans to go on the record for CU, we’d probably have President Harris now.
We just have to admit that the representative democracy system, in its current form, suffers from the same flaws as other systems. It’s done a great job at elevating people a bit, but we hit a new ceiling of how prosperous the average person is.
I really want the conversations to be more around iterating on representative democracy. In this day and age we should be able to have our voices/votes heard more on each topic.
I don’t think we’ll ever move on to the next step of human societal development until we stop concentrating power. Us picking a representative in the hopes that they will proxy vote for what we actually want them to vote for does not work.
Jfc. They and both houses of Congress multiple times since Citizens United and didn’t do shit. Bringing it up now, when it won’t even get through Congress, let alone the states, is a fucking distraction
Even then they never had the support to pass this or any constitutional ammendment.
It would have been a great political move though. Make Republicans go on the record as wanting more money in politics. CU is horribly unpopular and they could go on the offense for once…if they wanted to.
They probably couldn’t pass it, but this is the precise sort of fight they could wage to excite their base…if they wanted to.
They’ve been in record for this since the 1980s, one vote in Congress doesn’t show anything that the actions of Republicans haven’t shown in the last 20 years.
Trump is just full mask off. Reagan had humor to deflect his issues. Trump is a drooling moron who does what Republicans always have wanted.
I hate to say it but proposing a constitutional amendment is just virtue signaling at this point. There isn’t a snowballs chance in hell this passes even with 100% democrat support.
I appreciate the thought and effort but put forth legislation that actually has a chance at passing.
Virtue signaling is an important act for a minority party. It lets the base know what you stand for and what your opponents stand against. This is something with broad public appeal yet low congressional support (because politicians like monies). It’s something you can hit your opponents with and, with a snowball’s chance, you might actually make progress in passing.
“I want to take money out of politics, my opponent is captured by rich billionaires. They don’t serve you, they serve the billionaires” It’s an ad that writes itself.
This is something dems should be doing, especially since the last election was them running away from policy and instead doubling down on how much their policy isn’t different from the average republican’s. We saw how that turned out.
But its a lie… they had the chance to make this a reality, but they honestly don’t care. They can try to appeal to progressives but it’s too late.
No, they didn’t. When did they have a chance to pass a constitutional amendment?
I will never understand what is wrong with virtue signalling. We should all be happy when people feel pressured to publicly state that they stand with good things and against bad things. Plus, it’s not like they’re lying: if it gets called to vote then they’ll all show their colors, and if it doesn’t get called to vote then it forces the opponents to show theirs.
As much as I like to imagine a world where everyone understands politics enough to know Republicans are against removing money from politics, we clearly do not.
