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Littlejohn is charged with one count of unauthorized disclosure of tax returns and return information and faces up to five years in prison if convicted.

He should have violently stormed Congress instead. You only get like 3 months for that.

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118 points

littlejohn is what a patriot looks like because what he did is what patriots are supposed to do in the face of fascism

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39 points

Yep. Hope he holds his head high during trial.

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17 points

He’s probably going to need a gofundme.

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5 points

He’d be swimming in dough

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Well …

In addition to the former president’s tax documents, Littlejohn is also accused of stealing IRS information on “thousands of the nation’s wealthiest people, including returns and return information dating back more than 15 years.” Littlejohn then sent that tax information to a second unnamed news organization.

If it was only Trump’s tax returns, then I might agree with you. It wasn’t targeted specifically and only at Trump; it was an extremely wide net that was cast, and we don’t know who the rest of the people are. Based on the information publicly available, this appears more like an attempt to sell the information, or act illegally based on some fringe principle.

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46 points

read that too… ok maybe, but my sympathy for the 1% is a bit diminished atm.

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I get it, that’s fair. But justice means protecting the rights of people you don’t like, or of people who are exercising their rights in ways you don’t like.

Does that run counter to my saying I might agree if it was only Trump’s tax returns? Maybe it does a little bit. I feel comfortable leaning on that Trump was openly fraudulent, corrupt, and criminal by the time Littlejohn swiped the records.

But it definitely runs counter to being okay with someone making off with tax returns of people only described as “thousands of the nation’s wealthiest people,” with no other context. I have far fewer mitigating factors (really only one, wealth) to lean on there, even if I have my suspicions about the integrity of "thousands of the nation’s wealthiest people.

It’s a very fuzzy area, and I think that reasonable people can make sound arguments either way. I suppose what I can do is be pleased with the results of Littlejohn’s actions, and believe that his being criminally charged for them, and think that his motivations were probably unrelated to patriotism.

Shit’s complicated, yo.

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18 points

Sounds like was planning on exposing tax crimes by wealthy people. If he was trying to sell it etc he wouldn’t be sending it to a news organization, right?

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Highly unlikely that a contractor would have actual reason to believe that each of thousands of people had committed tax crimes so heinous that a justifiable action was to purloin each of their tax returns going back fifteen years, and then deliver that information to media outlets.

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12 points

Who cares what rich people think. We are constantly bombarded by propaganda meant to divide the pleebs and keep them from realizing the ruling class is robing us blind.

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I was writing this comment while you were posting.

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12 points

Justice means the wealth would be more equitably distributed, imo, and nothing indicates the data was sold.

Also, people really need to skip the NYT. Propublica got it right.

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Assuming you’re referring to this:

But justice means protecting the rights of people you don’t like, or of people who are exercising their rights in ways you don’t like.

Yup, it means both. Those are not mutually exclusive.

And:

this appears more like an attempt to sell the information, or act illegally based on some fringe principle.

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8 points

He should’ve posted them all online. As a cpa with a bit of rare downtime on my hands I’d love to volunteer to review returns for the irs. I know all the errors and omissions, tricks and and gimmicks, goofs, fuckups, whoopsies, you name it. 20% commission for the recovered taxes seems fair compensation.

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2 points

damn, like a vigilante accountants equivalent to the justice league. Would you be wearing a costume in this hypothetical?

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7 points

Tax returns in US should be public to anyone and everyone, like they are in many countries.

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3 points

Are they? Where? It seems odd to me that a government would disclose how much everybody makes.

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6 points

The reporting by ProPublica based on those records is definitely in the public interest, though.

Everyone’s tax returns should be public, IMHO.

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3 points

Sounds like a hero to me

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It says he gave it to a second news org. I think this is still about exposing cheats and the 1% are notorious cheats who need exposing if we’re going to fix the inequality problem.

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Dude was arrested for showing everyone what trump was obligated to show, but illegally hid from everyone.

This is America.

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Not to defend Trump in the slightest, but it was my understanding that the President isn’t actually required to release his taxes; it’s just a tradition that literally every other presidential candidate has conformed to. You know, to show that they’re trustworthy, which is why Trump never released his.

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55 points

Yep, Trump showed how much of the government actually runs on norms and traditions instead of actual laws. Even some of the laws that he did break (like the Presidential Records Act) don’t actually specify penalties because Congress assumed it wasn’t necessary.

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The funny thing is, his tax returns were fairly unremarkable. I’m a cpa and my background is largely with high and ultra high net worth individuals and their businesses, so people like trump are my bread and butter. I reviewed his returns when they first leaked and honestly nothing jumped out at me as particularly noteworthy or interesting at all. All I can speculate is that he’s just a stubborn asshole and simply didn’t want to release them.

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16 points

He did also promise he would do it but then refused to follow through

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6 points

And his plan for healthcare reform is going to be released next month too any time now.

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8 points

If you’re running for President, you either disclose your tax returns or you don’t run. The tradition is there for a reason. I fully support jury nullification for this Littlejohn guy.

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43 points

Not a legal requirement, just the “right thing to do”

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11 points

Yeah. How the hell can that not be a legal requirement for a position like “president”?

It should be a requirement for any public office

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6 points

It should be, but nobody has ever refused before I believe.

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4 points

I can’t wait to find a redcoat that hates this guy but loves Snowden.

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59 points

If storming the capital gets your 3 months, then exposing Trump’s fraud should get you… A medal of honor?

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Yeah, but this is America. Where democrats run the show, but conservatives do whatever they want with impunity.

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Damn poor guy. I’ll put 20 bucks on his books for Ramen. Dudes a true patriot.

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