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I am all for minimizing/eliminating single use plastics. But when i get served a milkshake in a plastic mug, with a plastic lid, and a plastic spoon, but a paper straw because of “save the sea”…

i just wish we used our brains more.

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What if dispenser machines had a pay by volume model? You bring your own thing, they fill it, and charge you by how much you use. Would probably need something added to measure flow and set prices, but it’s not like a McDonalds built in the 70s is still using exactly the same machines they were back then.

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Gas pump style soda fountains would be absolutely hilarious. Truly the peak of american culture.

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This but in Oregon you’d get yelled at for doing it yourself. :p

Edit: Huh, turns out they lifted that ban in 2023 so now people can pump their own gas.

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Years ago at Universal for Halloween Horror Nights they used bottom fill beer dispensers. They had a connector on the bottom of the cup so you could grab a cup pop it down on the machine and keep going. Say 15 beers in seconds. The beer fills to the exact height needed with the exact desired foam amount on top. No over poors or needing to have any loss. Time was cut down drastically. The cups had to be expensive, but when your charging $10 for $1 with of product you don’t have to worry to much about cup cost I guess. I remember thinking at that moment American Capitalism has peaked haha.

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Could just do it by weight. Put vessel under nozzle. Zero scale, and hold till weight determined for sale, hand to customer. Could likely even have software do it.

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Measuring by volume dispensed like gas pumps would be less likely to be abused. I can just lift the cup slightly as its filled and pay less.

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If you saw how much plastic is used to get that paper straw to you (logistics) you would just drink from the cup

Also paper cups are lined with plastic to stop the drink from running through it, metal cans are lined with plastic to prevent a metallic taste

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Oh, i don’t prefer using it anyway, it got served with it already in.

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Honestly how much more expensive would glass mugs/cups be? Like A&W Canada will give you a chilled mug for root beer (and other drinks but the root beer is iconic)

If it’s to go then then paper cups are fine. The paper straws are just annoying…

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20 points

Why not both?

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Getting rid of plastic straws, but not cups and lids was such a stupid thing. There are substitutes for cups, but they cost more, so they weren’t a good option for greenwashing.

If you’re already minimizing seafood intake because of the lead content, you’re already minimizing your personal impact of fishing net use. What we need to do is legislate the use of hemp nets. Hemp was the primary net maternal before the oil industry put their weight behind making hemp illegal under the guise of “The War On Drugs!” and made plastic/nylon nets the default.

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That would be ideal, but each person has limited time and attention. Advocate for both, but put your efforts into figuring out how to change the thing with the larger impact.

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Yeah, one can just “drink like a real adult”, like the ones said to me that now want the plastic straws back…

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to be fair that was a regulator decision. they seem to have went for the low hanging fruit of something relatively easy to replace without impacting the bottom line.

not gonna save the world by a long shot, but its a better than nothing sort of deal im surprised they even bothered with in the first place.

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My conspiracy theory is it was chosen to deliberately harm the optics of environmentalists. Something with minimal useful impact and maximum inconvenience would turn people against the whole idea of environmentally friendly alternatives.

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I see a lot of people who share your opinion. I used to work rehabbing sea turtles and EVERY turtle we received alive or dead had straws/bags in their gut. It might not seem super important but those products look more like jellyfish and turtles have poor eyesight.

The nets commercial fishing boats make the most plastic waste by a lot but declining a plastic straw and bringing your own bag to shop WILL save a life.

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thats not something i do not shy away from. those fucks are that manipulative.

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I think it’s also a product of the guy on the left likely has never used and will never use a fishing net. It’s kind of like the tarrifs on Canada. America wasn’t ever complaining that drugs were being trafficked over the the Canadian border but that is the reason they are giving for the tarrifs. The truth I see is one of the highest imports from Canada to the U.S. is Aluminum. Coke already stated if Aluminum costs go up, they will simply make more of their products in plastic bottles instead to keep their costs down. Those plastic bottles are made from petroleum which funds much of the GOP’s campaigns. He is simply paying back oil executives by ensuring aluminum prices rise. Cokes profits stay the same, Oil companies profits go up. Where does the money come from? Working class Americans

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As much as I’d like a valid reason to shit on the Republican government (and there are many), this is not one of them.

Borders arw closing because globalization is declining world-wide. That has to do with reduced growth and progress, and is not due to the whims of a politician. The borders have been closed before the 20th century; what makes you believe that “borders open” is an invariable and ultimate truth? If that were really so, why weren’t global borders so open before the 20th century?

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I think it’s also a product of the guy on the left likely has never used and will never use a fishing net.

What? This an absolutely absurd assertion. Fishing cooperatives are incredibly common. Find one near* you and go inside.

Also, who do you think are the ones cleaning up the mess, actually cutting the nets off, and doing the research? It’s not the guy trying to max out his investment portfolio, that’s for sure.

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That data has to be scewed by region. Over half the population can’t swim well enough to save themselves from a current. If I asked 10 people in my life when they fished last, 9 of them would say not in the last 10 years. Likely 10 of them would say they have never used a fishing net. A rod and reel is all you ever normally see.

There are people who fish all the time, and there are people who have never seen the ocean or an actual large lake. Many of the people I meet have never been on a boat.

I lived in Panama City Beach for 5.5 years and went fishing once, and never with a rod or nets. We went flounder gigging, so just a spear really.

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37 points

Just stop eating fish.

No need for nets.

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20 points

stop eating all animals tbh.

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Checked the username, can confirm. Very annoying.

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If you call that one comment “very annoying” you need to get more used to reading opinions you don’t agree with. That was the shortest, least preachy thing ever.

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9 points

No, that would inconvenience me. I would prefer to virtue signal. /s

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-1 points

did you try that?

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9 points

There was no trying. I just did it.

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-6 points

it didn’t work

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5 points

Yes. Yes I did.

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it didn’t work

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36 points

The worst thing about paper straws is seeing it poked through a plastic lid.

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Noticed the same thing, how can one be concerned about the plastic straws but not the cups? I almost thought that was the joke.

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3 points

How is called virtue signaling

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Cool thing is that here in Copenhagen a lot of privately owned places now also use cardboard lids. As someone who delivers food for a living, I’m also happy about the change because cardboard lids have far more fiction and don’t pop off as easily when transporting.

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