I don’t want to taint our comrades minds with the Neo fascist liberal ideology of the West! Although it would be quite funny to see the interactions like what happened on red note earlier this year. where only the most hardened westoid would have any hatred left in their heart for them.
The Chinese internet spaces I’ve frequented are so staunchly anti-west(for right and wrong reasons) that anybody who’d willingly get indoctrinated would have to have already been laughed out of every mainstream social media platform. So, honestly, I think this wouldn’t be too bad of an idea, especially given that for most Chinese people the west is this vague concept that has little to no impact on their daily lives.
American online right wing propaganda is way too strong, to a point where its just a self-sustaining plague on the internet. The way it turns apolitical people into right wing nut jobs is quite scary. I would bet most people in China are apolitical and that would be ripe picking for the propaganda.
Yeah so many get suckered in by people like Joe Rogan/Jordan Peterson/Asmengold/Tim Pool etc. All of them of have this certain playbook of intentionally hiding their power level and slowly nudging apolitical people towards the dark side.
I don’t think that’s actually what happened.
I think people like Joe Rogan et al are, themselves, slowly nudged towards the far right by their sponsors and endorsements and partnerships and guest appearances etc etc. Those idiots didn’t play some kind of long con to trick normal people into becoming rightists, they themselves changed and dragged their audiences with them. They don’t have a playbook, they’re being played.
Both are probably true tbh. It’s clear those people were artificially propped up and put into the spotlight by sponsors behind the scenes. On the other hand, all of them made/make numerous efforts to downplay themselves as “neutral” when they were already clearly entrenched onto the right and clearly knew what they were doing to at least some extent. They may be idiots but I don’t think a simple act of manipulation like that necessarily requires being a genius.
Joe Rogan is the ultimate example of social being determining your conscious. As he got richer and more popular he became more right wing.
I also agree and don’t think it was a deliberate long con by any of them (well maybe Tim Pool?). They are all just products of their environments. The right also understands how important it is to control the cultural hegemony. Theyre not just talking to people about politics, but all sorts of different niches.
I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I’ve talked with some netizens that argue Ayn Rand style talking points and it’s a little annoying
Shanghai isn’t ready for opening the valve yet.
And of course, new wave of Mainland Chinese Wikipedians will be ready to contribute.