Yeah Todd, that means people want a deeper RPG experience than you give with just a simple perk system that allows you to be good at everything all at once.
Heh. Playing the game now. You’re gonna have to sink hundreds of hours to fill that damn tree. I got 48hrs clocked and only Level 26. Barely touched rank 3 perks and haven’t maxed out one yet.
I say if you put a month game time into a single character, fuck it be good at everything. Builds be damned. You earned it.
I also like how you have to successfully use the skills you unlock in order to level them more
No. What it is is their best game since Skyrim. I’m enjoying it for what it is. For one I’m playing a charismatic/diplo character and there are so many Persuade and skill check options in dialog. Far more than in the last 4 Bethesda games combined. And if that’s boring I’ve also specced into John Wick one/two hit kill Pistol shit too.
It’s a fun game, I’m loving Starfield. But it doesn’t have the same RPG elements as I was hoping.
Fortunately Baldur’s Gate 3 got me there.
Fortunately for them, they already got your money. That’s the Bethesda MO… over-promise, under-deliver and fans will justify the rest. How many endings was FO3 suppose to have? I fully understand liking something that has flaws, but they shouldn’t be excused because of it.
But it doesn’t have the same RPG elements as I was hoping
I feel like hope wasn’t warranted there with the obvious streamlining trend since Skyrim*. I could maybe see being cautiously optimistic, as in waiting for reviews.
Not that it comes as a shock, I’m sure I’ll hear others say the same with the next elder installment.
*=They at least made an attempt with FO3, skill checks+perks (plus the XP system is less grind-y than Oblivion even if it is simplified and less “immersive”). Also improved upon by FONV. (I didn’t have a good start with Morrowind, in fairness it probably was my fault for some of it but I don’t think skill grind and dice-roll misses are a good combo plus needing meta-knowledge even if that’s what makes replaying fun… because slog.)
Ok so he doesn’t understand what makes an rpg beyond skill points. Explains a lot in hindsight. And got so close to clarity when he said they are making a game true to who they are. Just one fast travel away.
I want my choices to matter. The choices largely do not matter, if you’re even given a real choice at all. This has been the issue with their RPGs since Oblivion, and has only gotten worse over time. I don’t just mean how I move through a dungeon and take care of enemies; I mean in dialogue. When I am presented with a logical thing I could do or say, but I don’t actually have the option to do it, it sucks.
It’s kind of a defining feature of Bethesda IP. It’s how they maintain their IP. Where were you when the dragon broke?
Yes Todd, video games have changed. Some would even say grown & matured. Every game has aspects & mechanics from multiple genres. Like, one of the most played racing games is GTAV, probably.
The problem is that Todd and the rest of the creative team decided rather than doubling down on the RPG elements in a meaningful way, they would rather strip away all the mechanics and nerf them into essential obsolescence.
Planets were originally going to be a lot less forgiving and you would need different space suits for the environments. So for example, your frost prevention suit wouldn’t help you in a high radiation environment, and you would need a different set of suits for different conditions. Not anymore! Now we just get a little icon in the HUD that says “planet conditions bad” and does nothing meaningful.
Starfield just made me want to go back to Cyberpunk 2077 where all the ground-based mechanics are done better, or to No Man’s Sky, where all the ground-based and space-based mechanics are better.
