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TL;DR, the AG asked for a bench trial, Trump’s defense team didn’t respond, and so Trump gets a bench trial. It’s possible that a jury trial would have been disallowed in this particular case under New York law, but the defense didn’t even bother to ask.

Whelp, that’s on your people, Donald. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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75 points

You know you messed up when you run through so many good lawyers that the only people who are still willing to defend you are total goofballs.

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43 points

My understanding is, with possibly one or two short term exceptions, he hasn’t even had mediocre attorneys for years now. None of the big firms have wanted anything to do with him since before he was president.

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27 points

There was a good LegalEagle video the other day where he ranked all of Trumps lawyers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhy5Y8xVHS0

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9 points

Trump is going to be calling public defenders. Better call Saul.

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4 points

Call Jacob, and Ronnie🎶!

(Sorry, only folks in Los Angeles will get that. But that’s a lot of folks.)

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21 points

“The Best People.”

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9 points

AKA racists

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5 points

Well, who wants to work for a known rapist and fraudster?

People who don’t give a fuck about the law, that’s who.

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17 points

This is just so he can claim, later down the line, that it wasn’t fair because it was just one judge and not a jury blah blah

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8 points

Like a jury would prevent him from claiming bias… He already has ranted against juries and grand juries.

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8 points

How deeply satisfying

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85 points

It seems pretty obvious to me that Trump is deliberately trying to generate controversies like this to play into his whole “witch hunt” narrative.

The fact that his not having a jury is his own fault won’t matter to his voters, because trump will just frame it as further evidence of his persecution. They’re not going to care about the details, so when it inevitably goes against him, he can just invalidate the results to his base

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“They’re not going to care about the details…”

I think you solved your own conundrum. The judicial system could placate Trump and his fans at every turn, and they’ll still whine and complain through ignorance and malfeasance. It doesn’t matter. In the meantime, I would much rather see justice served through thorough, accurate, and fair application of the law. And that’s what is happening here, in beautiful fashion.

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6 points

I don’t see a conundrum to be solved.

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4 points

What a conundrum

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47 points

When you never pay your bills, you get what you pay for. Crap.

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44 points

My favorite part was when the camera panned from sad trump and stunned lawyers to the prosecution just trying not to laugh and cheer.

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I don’t see how this could come as a suprise to anyone as it was common knowledge of you follow this stuff that they failed to request a jury. I think hearing it in court would be like “ok, it’s official”.

There’s really no way out for Trump in this one, now, from what I understand.

I’m guessing his lawyers did not tell him what happened, were playing dumb, and are hoping he’s too clueless to realize it’s their fault he can’t even hope for a lone, contrarian jury member to get him out of this.

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3 points

God, a .gif of that would go so hard as a meme template

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1 point

Is that in the article? Doesn’t show up for me…

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2 points

Below the title and above the first paragraph there is a video player that runs a 55 second clip, it’s in the last 10 seconds. I’m unsure if that 10 seconds is from that moment though, really only see one person who seems elated but I could be wrong.

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2 points

Interesting, big blank space fir me. No adblocks or anything either…

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29 points

Is there an advantage is not requesting a jury for Drumps side?

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87 points

Not even remotely. Since there’s no jury, only the judge will be deciding - and this is the judge that Trump has been publicly talking shit about for months. Presumably, he only did that because he thought the case would be in the hands of a jury anyway, so it didn’t matter as much if he antagonized the judge. Whoops.

For him, it’s the worst possible scenario. For us, it’s highly amusing!

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49 points

Presumably, he only did that because he thought the case would be in the hands of a jury anyway, so it didn’t matter as much if he antagonized the judge. Whoops.

You’re giving him too much credit. When analyzing his behavior, it always helps to think like a first grader. The judge was mean to him, so he’s being meaner back. It’s as simple as that.

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8 points

Ha! You’re probably right!

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2 points

I think this is likely no useful at best. For the average person, who cares, but anyone who actually wants to be predictive or cautious, it’s probably harmful. I think it’s much more likely that this is a political tool because he knows he lost already. He convinces how bad the judge is to people and then leaves the decision to the judge, which if you believe they’re incompetent then that decision is now in question. He needs the presidency to save himself, not to convince people of stuff that obviously not true.

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Yea I too like to infantilize people I dislike, this makes me feel super smug and superior. Wait what do you mean the stupid poopy head became president?

The dumbest thing you can do is underestimate your enemies.

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He knows hes screwed in every case hes facing. He intends to completely shit the bed in every case since he cant win anyway, claim ineffective counsel on appeal hopefully with judges he appointed. If this doesnt work it goes to his stacked supreme court. He already had an attorney in another case say he would be ineffective counsel in advance of the court proceedings (completely unprecedented) which kinda gave up their game plan.

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24 points

As I recently learned, you can’t appeal on the basis of ineffective counsel in a civil case. Which this one is. That rationale for appeal is for criminal cases only.

So if he planned to do that here, well… it’s not going to work out so well for him.

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💀

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10 points

Seems like I’ve already read of several cases that went against him under judges he appointed. At this point I’m not even sure if the chuckleheads in the supreme court could be swayed in his favor. Considering how certain he is that everybody loves him, it’s not surprising that he thinks there’s only a very small minority of people on a witchhunt to get him. His ego couldn’t handle learning that millions of people would happily drop him on his ass if they saw him in the street.

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1 point

Hoping youre correct

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9 points

Nope.

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If Trump appointed the judge or can otherwise influence them yes.

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