US President Donald Trump has signed an order to strip back the federally-funded news organisation Voice of America, accusing it of being “anti-Trump” and “radical”.

A White House statement said the order would “ensure taxpayers are no longer on the hook for radical propaganda”, and included quotes from politicians and right-wing media railing against the “leftist”, “partisan” VOA.

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How is everything that is “anti-Trump” radical? You fucking dictator.

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“If you smell shit everywhere you go it’s probably because you’re covered in it” Anon

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I don’t understand the naysayers here.

This is hilarious. Trump wants to simultaneously expand the American empire, while he dismantles the tools of it that he’s too stupid to understand the importance of.

No matter their mission statement, or any tangible benefits they might have provided, both USAID and VOA, were tools of empire. These aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.

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Trump’s mission is to weaken the US, NATO, and the EU. Eliminating VoA helps do that. Notice how he isn’t threatening China with invasion, but Canada and Denmark instead.

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Because Trump knows that China can and will fight back.

Canada and Denmark are friends of ours that Trump is now throwing salt in their eyes and saying “neener neener” while showing them his ass.

Because of our history, they aren’t fighting back.

If they do, Russia wins.

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In what world isn’t Canada fighting back?

Which isn’t to say they shouldn’t, but they are pushing back to all the shit Trump is throwing at them. Just because they’re not launching missiles doesn’t mean they’re not fighting back.

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Trump doesn’t want to expand the American empire though. He makes noises about it, but words are cheap. Judging by his actions he wants to create chaos so oligarchs can profit.

The ultrawealthy have no national allegience.

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I could see him loving the idea of expansion to manufacture a legacy. Jefferson may have been a philosopher or a slave-romancer but that’s college academic stuff: every middle school student learns he bought Louisiana. McKinley got us as close to an on-paper empire as we got, and they put him on the $500 note for it.

Soft power will never fill the same goal. Being the cultural or moral lighthouse for the West is inherently different from actually raising a flag over their capitals.

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Trump may be narcissistic and senile but he still obeys his oligarch masters, probably from the usual motives of greed and fear.

I don’t know what your local children will learn at school but he’s fast earning himself a footnote in the international history books as the epoch that marks the tipping point into waning US power.

I may be wrong but I think the problem with the US cult of presidents/“great man of history” theory is that people like Trump keep the US populace speculating what he “wants” or “thinks” instead of on what his function is and what is actually happening.

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Everything Trump does – everything – suddenly makes sense when viewed through the lens of “how does Putin benefit?”

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How does Netanyahu benefit as well.

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That’s an incredibly myopic take that confuses correlation with causation.

These moves may benefit Putin, but Russia isn’t the only county to benefit. Infact, Russia is in a historically weak position to fill gaps left by a receding American empire.

I’d wager that China is likely to see much more geopolitical gains because they have the resources and capacity to take advantage of the situation.

I’m not saying Putin won’t benefit, just pointing out how limiting it is to view Trump through a singular lens.

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Trump has had close business and personal ties with Russia since the 1980s. He very clearly admires dictators in general but Putin in particular, and has praised him on numerous occasions. In Trump’s infamous public call for election interference, it was “Russia, if you’re listening.” Not China, not some other country, Russia.

If you can’t see the obvious signs of causation – not just correlation – you’re the one who needs some coke-bottle specs!

I’m not saying Putin won’t benefit, just pointing out how limiting it is to view Trump through a singular lens.

It’s the explanation – and the only one, to boot – that fits all the pieces. It may be a “singular lens,” bit it is singularly useful!

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We’re talking about a guy whose business accumen is so poor he managed to run multiple casinos into the ground. His “successful businessman” schtick has always been propped up by a mountain of debt and crime. If he had so much as two brain cells to rub together, he would have stuck with Ivana because she was the only member of the Trump family to have even a shred of sense.

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Not sure he could have kept Ivana anyway given she said at the time he raped her.

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See, the thing is, those tools of empire were government-funded. Congress allocated money and resources to those tools for them to do their jobs. The intent is to eventually replace those with privately owned, profit-motivated alternatives. Why do you think they cut NOAA and NWS funding and fired all their probies? So that private companies can fill the void. Then if you want life-saving weather information in the event of a tornado or hurricane, pay a monthly subscription fee to some billionaire’s weather/disaster alert service.

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This isn’t fundamentally changing anything. It’s about using different tools for the same goal.

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America cannot dominate the world militarily, nor could that even serve the goals of its contemporary brand of neoimperialism.

Soft power i.e. culture, propaganda, and diplomatic/idealogical relationships, are the foundation upon which it’s built.

Yes, military hard power plays a critical role, but it cannot replace soft power.

This isn’t empire for the sake of raw nationalism, and nothing would accelerate the American collapse faster than dismantling the state’s soft power tools. The end result will be attempts to maintain power by spending its military resources on peer, or near peer conflicts.

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In Trump’s brain, soft power isn’t properly deferential to him personally. That’s what it amounts to.

It all comes down to his raging narcissism; soft power is done with tact and diplomacy in whispers. For Trump, that’s weakness. It’s not true power unless people/countries/organizations proclaim his power with effusive thank-yous and obsequious shows of capitulation.

It’s not enough to lead the free world; the rest of the world needs to be properly thankful for it in a way that he himself finds acceptable. (namely by making a big show of bending the knee)

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It’s not really about changing it for cold hard power, but changing how their soft power will be projected. I’ve seen some theories that the rethoric is going to change from being about freedom of expression and LGBT rights and similar to ideas about traditional family values or something, and I think it’s very plausible.

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That’s why we call him JDPON Don - this dumbass is going to dismantle the empire and usher in global proletarian revolution.

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That’s why we call him JDPON Don - this dumbass is going to dismantle the empire and usher in global proletarian revolution.

Accelerationist fascists simping for oligarchs under the belief that THIS time it will work out for them. How surprising.

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If we’re lucky, we might avoid the World Wars which made many other revolutions possible.

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As an American, I would like to apologize that the idiots of this country re-elected Mango Mussolini. And I’m sorry that the rest of the world has to suffer because of this idiot and his cronies.

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Waiting for you guys to actually use your second amendment.

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Well, there was an attempt but unfortunately he wasn’t a very good shot.

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When they send their time travelers, they aren’t sending their best.

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5 points

I’m not American but from what I understand about the country, that guy may not have been the only one with a gun.

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It’s a pretty scary idea when the odds are very high that we would just get murdered by police or secret service. And in this hypothetical, if we were to fail, Trump would just bring them hammer down even harder on everyone else, making future attempts much more difficult if not impossible. Until the people are organized on a large scale and collectively convinced this is the only option we have left, we have too much to lose with very little chance of success.

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Sure, you’re 100% right here, but he’s coming for guns as well, so waiting might not be an option either. Let’s just hope everyone gets pissed sooner than later

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Hell, most of them aren’t even using their first ammendment yet.

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I thank you for the sentiment, but save your words and don’t spare the ammunition.

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You don’t have to self-identify as “American” if you don’t want. You don’t need to apologize for a system over which you have virtually no control. The first step to resisting an evil system is probably disavowal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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Under $300 million a year to spread US propaganda to over 300 million people. That’s a fucking bargain man.

This is going to give up so, SO much soft power because of a snowflake’s ego. This is a bad deal.

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I guess this is better than making VoA voice of trump.

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I’m wondering if it’s going to be “rebuilt”, personally.

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It must also be weird for the sycophants who he just nominated to staff it too.

The equivalent of “Daddy got you a pink convertible and you get three minutes to drive it before the repo guy comes”

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Oh no, his people will keep their jobs. He isn’t getting rid of it, he’s just firing anyone who does anything, and his people will come in and get paid to do nothing. It’s very likely that he can’t just do away with it, but he can just fire the people working there.

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