Remember when politicians said everyone should get covid to develop heard-immunity? And then we had more than one million deaths since then?

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What if there was a way for everyone’s body to know about measles, without actually getting measles.

That would be pretty cool huh?

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Yeah but you’d have to kind of train everyone’s immune system by somehow introducing it to the virus without the person actually getting infected.

Seems impossible.

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What if we did something to the virus so that it couldn’t make us sick, but still made our bodies thing we were sick?

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That’s just a bunch of jibber-jabber and will never work!

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I did this way today! (am old person so needed booster).

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you might want o get shingrx vaccine, for shingles too if your over 50+, shingles is more severe in older adults, than in younger people. i had a mild form of phn from a small shingles rash.

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8 points

This is a witch. Burn them.

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I got better.

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I know, right? Wouldn’t it be nice to get just a shot at the doctor’s office like I did, and not have to worry about catching a deadly disease?

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That’s the opposite of combating. That’s just giving up.

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“If we let people starve to death, we can solve the food crysis!”

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dead people don’t starve

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starved of oxygen 👉😎👉

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It’s like an AI ran the calculations and determined eradication of the species will minimize suffering. Except we didn’t need an AI, just a really dumb guy.

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FYI - “Crysis” is an intentional misspelling of the word “crisis” for the purpose of the title of a video game.

I guess they thought the Y made it cooler? I dunno, but it definitely never worked for people’s names. Karyn is so much worse than Karen.

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The game was developed by crytek, also behind cryengine. That’s the reason for the name.

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karyn is much cooler than karen

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Also measles resets your immune system. Your immune system keeps records of all the crap it’s fought, making it easier to fight next time. When you get measles, it’s like you’re a new born. So he’s not only allowing ppl to die, he’s making it easier for future illnesses to kill as well.

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Two studies of unvaccinated children in an Orthodox Protestant community in the Netherlands found that measles wipes out the immune system’s memory of previous illnesses, returning it to a more baby-like state, and also leaves the body less equipped to fight off new infections.

The first paper, led by Velislava Petrova, of the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Cambridge University, says measles erodes two separate lines of defence of the immune system.

To tackle previously unseen infections, the immune system relies on constantly pumping out a diverse range of immune cells – thousands of different varieties, each with slightly different receptors on their surfaces, with a collective ability to recognise almost any pathogen.

“The more diverse range of them we have, the better,” said Petrova. However, after measles, the children had a far more restricted range.

The immune system also creates long-lived memory cells, which remain permanently in circulation, allowing the body to rapidly recognise and eliminate previously encountered infections.

However, after measles, a substantial proportion of immune memory cells had disappeared from the children’s blood, in what the scientists described as “immune amnesia”. This could even mean that children who become infected with measles may need to be revaccinated for previous diseases.

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Holy shit is that grim.

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Wouldn’t this basically reset the COVID pandemic back to where we were in 2021?

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No.

The problem isn’t people who have been vaccinated against measles, the problem is people who haven’t, can’t, or are otherwise immunocompromised.

Those people would have all of their immunities reset. People who don’t get measels because they have the vaccination will be unaffected.

Plus the current COVID variant is quite unlike the one in 2021, and we’ll all need to get vaccinated against the next surviving variant anyway. Coronaviruses suck in that way.

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I… didn’t say the problem was people vaccinated against measles? I’m saying unvaccinated people will have their COVID immunity reset, regardless of natural immunity from previous infections. Basically the pandemic starts over for unvaccinated people.

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The original version of covid still exists, people will get infected by it again if measles wipes out their immunity to it. Itl be WORSE than the pandemic since there are MULTIPLE versions of covid to catch.

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it suppresses your immune system, measles theoretically does this by infecting dendritic cells which present antigens to t-cells which fights of viruses, if thats impaired, your immune system wont recognize old and new infections.

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Wow I never knew this. That’s fascinating.

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Is it really still news that USA has gone crazy?

Sorry I asked the same on another story that was also crazy, but this one is even crazier! 🤡

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It’s not crazy.

I wish people would see that, this is years of bad policy coming to light.

This isnt maliciousness or apathy. This is stupidity, while the south and midwest excel and continue this. The Republicans and those in power continue to dismantle education.

Why. Because stupidity is a force greater than evil. You can’t argue with it, you can’t change it, you can’t reason with stupidity.

A democracy is only as good as it’s continued excellence in education, learn from this Europe and be better.

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The stupidity was always ingrained in American racial politics combined with extreme Christianity.
Leading to falsification of historic events, and denial of science especially evolution. Resulting in awful moral standards based on 2000 year old principles.
In that regard USA is more like Iran than Europe. Except Iran doesn’t have the white supremacist problem. So USA may actually be worse.
How can you trust anything, when you can’t trust your teachers and basic education?
Americans are stupid because the majority wants to keep it that way.

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