Spineless cowards. There are amateur stand up comedians living in their cars and working for beer money who handle hecklers better than these professional public speakers with lifetime Healthcare.
Meanwhile we have people like AOC volunteering to do town halls in Republican districts, just so Republican voters can actually talk to a member of congress.
What a pathetic state of affairs.
Meanwhile we have people like AOC volunteering to do town halls in Republican districts, just so Republican voters can actually talk to a member of congress.
I love this as it’s such a power move.
It really is. Her and a few others need to form a coalition and take over the party. Give Pelosi and Schumer the boot and pivot hard to the Left for the working class.
It may already be happening, she polls better than anyone else in her party
At the beginning of March, Johnson advised his Republican colleagues not to hold town hall meetings, claiming they were giving a “forum” to “professional protesters.”
These idiots are going to find out why peaceful protest exists. The alternative is not very friendly to say the least.
Its looking more and more like thats the GOP plan. Incite an uprising, then they declare martial law where they are free from any check on their power by the courts.
Whats going to be the lynchpin is the GOP will have an army willing to put down Americans en masse.
Or the military command structure fractures and now they have several warring regional or state fractions/civil war, or the military leadership enacts a coup when given illegal orders and either holds executive under military threat or hands control back to the legislature or judicial to hold a special election.
They are unable to see any of these unintended possible consequences of their actions, the same way they are unable to identify irony, or have empathy, or entertain hypotheticals.
There’s a conflict of interest between EU and USA that is becoming a real problem.
Preamble: European States and companies widely use cloud services run by US companies. In the EU data protection is considered a human right, whereas in the US it’s a citizen’s right.
That means, if an intelligence service in the eu want to look at my data, they need a warrant. If an intelligence service in the US want to look at a US citizen’s data, they need a warrant. Ø
But if a US intelligence service want to look at my data, a US company will just have to hand it over. I have no protection, not being a US citizen.
A few legal exercises has been made to deal with this. After all, the amounts earned by Azure, Google Cloud and AWS are noteworthy. Twice the EU court of Law has deemed these exercises wanting, and the problem has been huge enough that Biden and EU Commission head van der Layen made a joint pressemøde conference to annonce that it had been solved - latest in october 2022 by executive order 14086.
End of preamble.
So. The US has this peaceful group of nations across the atlantic that very much just want to pump billions into the US digital economy. As long as the US at least pretends that they respect EU data privacy laws more or less on the level that US citizens are protected. Because building our own similar services is one hell of a pain.
It’s a pipeline of free money. And even though we complain at every price hike, we can’t seem to move towards the exit.
Project 2025 language on this? It’s all an evil plot by scheming europeans in Brussels to nerf US intelligence, and EO14086 is another weak decision by weak biden. It should be cancelled and Brussels should told to piss off.
Billions. Literally billions of dollars every year flowing from companies and taxpayers all over EU towards US Big Tech bank accounts. And the p2025 nutcases want to fuck it up, because setting a tiny privacy footnote on billions of tech dollars make america look weak.
Sorry. We can’t trust you Guys.
holds executive under military threat or hands control back to the legislature or judicial to hold a special election.
With the actual past insurrection supporters currently in control of the legislature and the judiciary, I wonder if this would be the final thing that triggers action on their part to preserve the country, or would they simply hand the reigns of power back to copycats of the ones that fomented the first insurrection.
This is one of the reasons why Lincoln was emphatic that the south had to draw first blood. That allowed him to set the war in motion.
The problem this time is that the fascists are in power and they have their hands on the levers. They are drawing first blood through their laws and executive orders.
At some point, liberals will have to fight back. I fear that more people will die before that happens
We need to start hosting our own town halls. Invite the fuckers and the media.
I like this idea. What does it look like?
One or two skilled people identify a venue (public high school gym? Public park? Local, non-corporate movie theater? A stadium?) and schedule a date and time?
Come up with a draft agenda to discuss at the meeting, publish it somewhere accessible online, and request comments to consider additions/revisions?
Do the same thing for a meeting ruleset to ensure it remains productive and not just an excuse to suck up oxygen by venting/ranting? Use something like a ‘talking stick’?
Have petitions ready for signature so attendees can formally record their views and desires upon conclusion of the meeting?
Identify 3 or so topics to rally behind and ask for volunteers to lead or serve on committees to act on them?
I want this stuff to be actionable, not just a “someone should do this!” complaint.
I’m not an organizer… I’m naive on how this kind of thing works…but I’d like to be part of an organized movement to make things trend toward better before it gets worse.
You cant just organise a gathering of many people without permits. If you lack the permits for say, fire safety, your gathering will be broken up by police and you get a fun day in court. And guess what happens if you apply for permits in your town and you say you want to organise your own town hall because you disagree with the ones in power? Do you think they will get approved?
Exactly. This is why peaceful protest doesn’t work.
So, let’s get this straight.
Protestors make noise and cause a ruckus to draw attention to any number of social issues they feel need addressed. If they’re successful, laws/perceptions change to more closely reflect their ideal.
Professional protestors are those that get paid to do that.
Ergo, politicians are the “paid protestors”, and the people you are avoiding are just garden-variety protestors.
My question to Republicans is how the fuck are paid protesters any different than paid lobbyists?!
No. No, they are not. America is full of a bunch of pussy, shit talkers. They won’t do a damn thing. If they were going to do anything but whine, they would have done it by now.
I definitely get this sentiment, but I do feel like it should be pointed out that there’s been at least two assassination attempts against Trump.
What we really need is just better aim.
Look at you sitting in Michigan talking to a mirror. We’re waiting for you to lead the charge.
This chant brought to you by the people who voted explicitly to tax the poor in order to give money to the rich. Just two brain cells in the entire goddamn party.
How do people not realize that they are the poor people that rich people hate
Fair point, but I suppose that’s the majority of the population in Columbus Nebraska
I do tend to be suspicious about that these days …… I live in a very blue area but over the last get years we’ve had town halls disrupted by chants to stop protecting our kids from diseases. From people out of our town, including out of state
Republicans are the Nazi party in America.
MAGA youth parades. Time to get these kids reporting on their parents and reporting to our glorious leader.
It doesn’t help they seem to have a few Vichy-type collaborators on the “opposing” team.
The thing is that the Nazi Party had a talented speaker who knew how to talk to the common man and a right hand man who was an expert at propaganda.
I don’t think you understand how idiotic Americans have become. All it takes is an Orange Turd to convince them.
Trump has a cult of personality which makes it hard to gauge how some folks see him. I see him as a sniveling, gormless, weakling who’s is undeserving of even basic human respect. My grandmother somehow is seeing the savior of America who will start a new golden age, I blame 40 years of propaganda and lead poisoning.
The point is that it’s not necessarily a matter of intelligence but moreso a matter of influence, I’ve met a couple folks who are dumber than shit but are separate from propaganda and are anti trump for the simple fact that he talks worse than them. Destroy the propaganda networks and you destroy Trump.
What a sad and absurd irony of history.
My favorite president, Abraham Lincoln, was a Republican. I think a secular federal republic is a pretty decent form of democratic governance. The “Radical Republican” wing of the antebellum Republican Party were the most ardent and vocal supporters of abolition in Congress.
Now the very word is tainted by association by these scumbags.
And Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive Republican that opposed trusts and the imbalanced influence of money in politics (but the changes began to happen during his time, which is why he left the party altogether). There was a time when “Republican” just referred to the kind of governmental structure one supported (just like “democrat”), with a range of economic and social views. That’s actually what the “grand” in Grand Old Party (GOP) referred to iirc—it was a party big enough handle a range views and ideas. AND, again iirc, the whole push for republican governmental ideas by said party was to find a way around the stranglehold of slavery in American economics. Representative government could make decisions that the populace might not support because it was the morally correct thing to do (which is also why the concept of electors was advanced by Hamilton, incidentally: as a safe-guard against tyranny—electors could look at an elected candidate and say “nah” because that person was actually likely to work against the interests of the United States).
How the mighty have fallen.
GOP voters actually advocating for something that would be good for them? I feel like I woke up in a different timeline.
They advocate for all kinds of reasonable things, but they never actually vote for them.
