69 points

The solution is so simple. Vote overwhelming for progressive, and get rid of the centrists and Republicans.

We’d have free, universal healthcare within a couple of years.

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The country founded on genocide because the UK didn’t want them doing slavery is never going to allow that to happen.

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18 points

Assuming USA, it unfortunately means doing this in the primaries. Good luck getting people to show up to those and vote progressive.

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Tell me about it. We could have had Bernie.

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3 points

Bernie was a beneficiary of the DNC fuckery. They wanted an “unhinged commie” to scare the base into line behind Hillary.

The reality is America won’t go actually progressive until the world is dead.

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46 points

First you need overwhelming numbers to join the Democrat party to make sure a progressive candidate gets leadership of the party. Otherwise it will just be Hillary Clintons beating out Bernie Sanders every time.

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4 points

For real for real, the sheer level of conspiracism and explaining away the fact that Boomers will actually go out and fucking vote.

It can’t be that the people who disagree with them go out and do the one “praxis” they have to be dragged out kicking and screaming to do even for the guy they claim to support, no, clearly the DNC is responsible for Bernie losing a race he got less votes in!

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5 points

Well, the DNC absolutely kneecapped Bernie when he was running against Hillary. I mean, we literally have the emails to prove it.

Against Biden, the issue wasn’t the DNC as much as it was Elizabeth Warren refusing to consolidate the liberals behind Bernie as the moderates consolidated behind Biden. The final nail in the coffin was the prominent black leader who thew his support to Biden and handed him a critical victory in one of the southern states. This always annoyed me deeply, because Bernie was literally out there getting arrested to fight for their civil rights while Biden was on the wrong side of the busing civil rights issue.

Oh well. At least Bernie dragged Biden much farther left than he would have been.

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3 points

Well… At this point boomers will soon be losing their death grip in the party because of attrition. They’re getting old. Millennials will soon outnumber them in terms of likely voters.

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4 points

I don’t think it’s a generational thing. Whatever corruption kept Biden from doing single payer healthcare will also stop younger presidents from doing it.

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8 points

Simple isn’t always easy.

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I’m confused, this isn’t being funded by the government who would be responsible for US healthcare is it?

Surely a private company spending money on this to make money from the tourists is good for the space industry in general as it will help with data on building longer term space habitations for people not willing to go though the level of acclimatisation that astronauts do.

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Don’t bring your logic to Lemmy. We want to kill the billionaires, have healthcare and live by Lenin, Marx and Mao’s law. Begone, liberal!

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20 points

I assume the implication is that a level of wealth disparity that could allow tourists to holiday in space while other people can’t get essential medicines… is bad.

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-1 points

But essential medicines are free! Where do you live? Syria or something?

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2 points

Everytime I see memes like this it always makes me laugh how america-centric people’s positions are. Can the counties that already have healthcare enjoy space travel without septics moaning about their country, lol.

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7 points

Ok but don’t people living in Syria and the USA deserve healthcare? Shouldn’t all humans get food, shelter and medicine when there is clearly the resources to ensure we all have those things?

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221 points

There’s absolutely no way a space hotel will be operational in 2027.

But it’s more likely than public healthcare in the USA in 2027.

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50 points

I mean maybe some billionaire will convince (pay) NASA to dock some capsule with a sleeping bag to the ISS and other billionaires can go sleep in that sleeping bag. It is technically a hotel, but it will definitively not be like in the picture…

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you can already make the argument that both things could be cool and good

charge 1 billion and put it into healthcare

but that aint going happen everyone in America knows that

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10 points

How many seats do democrats need to make a singlepayer option without Republican help?

Supermajority in both Senate and House?

Genuine question, I’m not overly familiar with the nitpicks.

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1 point

Obama could have gotten it done if Dems had the willpower in that short window. They’ll get another chance at some point. Will they jump on it next time? I’m not sure. Some of them are taking that same billionaire money.

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Nope, even conservativer Dems than the one we wrangle over today refused to get on board with the filibuster proof majority so long as the public option was still included

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Bare minimum 60 in the Senate and 218 in the house, a long with a president that supports it. But given that many Democrats take money from health insurance companies and have a vested interest in stopping universal healthcare, you’d probably need a supermajority (2/3) in both houses to pass it, as some Dems will inevitably vote against it.

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6 points

I don’t know, but first they need a leader who’s actually interested in singlepayer in the first place.

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7 points

Biden has consistently shown himself willing to change his position on almost any matter as long as his colleagues and constituents show it too.

2008 had a lot regular Democrats spooked about big bad single payer. With younger representatives he’d definitely be on board when the will starts showing.

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6 points

They had it for about 50 days in 2009.

That’s when we got the ACA.

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1 point

Which is Romneycare.

They had a supermajority and they still wouldn’t do anything but pass a Republican bill.

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Majority in House, supermajority of 60 in the Senate, practically speaking.

PROBLEM:

Not all Democrats are onboard with universal healthcare. Hence the fiasco in 2009.

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4 points

Personally I disagree, I think the Liebercrats have mostly died off, the tenor of the debate within the modern democratic party has almost completely become “just a public option or complete wipeout of private medicine?”

Personally I think the best first step is just removing the age floor on Medicare. You’re eligible soon as ya come out the womb. The only other change you’d need to make immediately is mandating that doctors accept it if they want to remain licensed to practice.

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7 points

It takes a lot of effort and nuance to pass a good idea. It only takes one shithead (republican) flinging poop to muddy the waters, so it’s incredibly hard to pass good legislation.

You need like 65 Democrats to even have a chance, but that will be very hard since R voters are dumb as bricks and if Trump didn’t wake them up to their stupidity, nothing will.

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44 points

If some idiot breaks every rule like with the submarine, maybe they’ll get one up there. And then kill everyone in it.

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8 points

Can we send Musk?

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9 points

He wants to go to Mars. Hopefully he will stay there. And run out of air.

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23 points

Since it’s going to be rich clowns that make the trip up there, I’m fine with both happening.

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We could get one of those big wine presses, dress it up like a rocket and put the ultra rich on there ‘ok everyone hold on tight, you’ll be blasting off to that super exclusive space hotel as soon as soon as you press that big red button…’

We can spend the remaining money on public services and social infrastructure.

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They can get their nephew who’s good at the “space games” to pilot the ship too!

Cheap bastards won’t even chip in for a decent HOTAS or a hall effect modded elite controller I bet.

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4 points

I would not trust a vanilla ksp player to pilot a rocket, an RSS/RO/Principia player on the other hand

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3 points

This will inevitably happen one day, and yeah it could happen for 2027 I guess.

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4 points

USA healthcare is dying at your machine right after telling a co-worker you’re “gonna give it another day or two.”

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6 points

My favorite version of this the lady is like spouting off a bunch of silicon valley buzzwords and the guy on the right is “healthcare pls…”

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Republicans want billionaires and wealthy corporations to be untaxed because they earned every cent so that exclusive property can be built, like this space hotel, that the republican rabble will never set foot in. Then they’ll thank god when the space debris takes out half their neighborhood but spares their home.

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