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I‘m super excited about all the hard evidence we will surely get to see very soon! Can’t wait!

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He heard of all the evidence from another dude and he said “trust me bro”, this has to be valid!!!

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Why would the DoD be immune to having crazy people? 90% of the crazy people I’ve met in my life have served at some point. It’s not like the DoD is known for their robust mental health screening and/or treatment facilities.

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Honestly it’s probably just bullshit they made up because if they didn’t find something else to do the gov would have to help regular people.

I actually think it’s bullshit to try and trick China into thinking the ship based laser missile defence system is able to create sustained plasma interactions at high altitude, they used to do the same to the Soviets all the time - push fake news so they’d waste r&d money. They hope china sees how much effort they’re going to with this farce and assumes it’s to hide the experimental anti missile defences which are the actual source of the tictac videos and radar recordings.

But I think that’s just me being hopeful, I wouldn’t be surprised if the US gov doesn’t know if they have probably the biggest and most important discovery in centuries being kept secret by shadowy secret agencies so they need to hold hearings with obscure and clearly oddball whistle blowers to try and find out…

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2 points

Mountains and mountains of evidence!!

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Remember “Alien Autopsy” back in the 90s?

Presented with a completely deadpan face by Jonathan Frakes from Star Trek: TNG, I thought at the time just what a coincidence it was that this “bold” bit of “journalism” came out at precisely a time when Hollywood had developed its’ makeup and prostheses technology enough to make a visually believable fake video on the subject.

A very large coincidence indeed. Wouldn’t you say?
And so it always is and has been with this subject and the people that swirl around t.

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A fraction of Anonymous apparently hacked into secret NASA servers and obtained massive amount of documents containing UPOs and UFOs. Soon to be revealed.

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Oh come on. Anonymous, apparently, soon … classic bullshit cocktail if I‘ve ever seen one. All they do is ddos websites these days.

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lmao. “soon”

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I just… Don’t believe it. I generally believe there is more going on than nothing but if the US had a spaceship with an alien body then we are really fucking bad at capitalizing on that technology, past the point of believability.

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I believe aliens exist, somewhere in the universe. Statistically it seems inevitable, I just don’t believe they’ve visited earth or even know we exist, just like we don’t know they exist. You can sit on something like that, there would be much better evidence than grainy fake looking videos and second hand accounts.

Earth is a very early stable planet, I’m sure there will be lots more species in the coming billions of years. We might even be the most advanced civilization in the galaxy. But we’ll probably never contact anyone else, best we do is notice signs of life on a distant planet.

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I know this sounds kinda kooky but personally my (completely no basis) guess is that UFOs (in the most convincing video evidence) are some kind of natural phenomenon that exists partially outside of our understanding of physics. If they have some sort of intelligence and they aren’t just random noise, I think they would be so different from us as to be utterly unparsable. If all that is true and they interact with us, their motivations would be similarly unknowable.

I’m depressingly not convinced faster than light travel will ever be possible, especially for humans or human-like organisms…

I’m very interested in them though. I’m very hopeful that studying them seriously might lead to some incredible insights about physics.

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depressingly not convinced faster than light travel will ever be possible, especially for humans or human-like organisms…

I think you’re right, the only chance we’ll ever have at reaching another habitual world (if we ever even detect one well enough) is with cryogenics and/or colony ships. It’ll take hundreds, possibly thousands of years till we’re at that point thought. Especially when our civilization puts so little into space travel. We should really have a moon base at this point.

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Corridor Crew has debunked the Pentagon videos as camera artifacts and optical illusions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHDlfIaBEqw

These guys are filmmakers and really know cameras, optics and VFX so I have confidence in their explanations.

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The NHIs being discussed by Grusch and others have not been stated to be ETs, but rather the current thought is interdimensional.

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This seems like a very weird view considering the amount of people who have been saying that they communicate telepathically with us.

Could be future humans for all we know.

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Just so you know, faster-than-light travel is not necessary to explore the stars. With enough constant acceleration (which seems to be achievable with the tech that these craft have demonstrated) you could go pretty much anywhere in the galaxy in your lifetime. The obvious downside is that the further you go, the more time-dilation becomes an issue for everyone else. For example, you may travel ~9 light years to Sirius in a matter of months from your perspective, but 10 years pass for everyone else. Still, if your goal is to explore, I find this to be quite a decent trade-off, and given that we are already making strides in life-extension that time may become a non-issue very quickly.

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Or the universe is a dark forest, where civilizations that reveal themselves get snuffed out by more advanced civilizations so they can’t pose a threat in the future.

I read to much sci-fi.

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I’ve always liked the theory, well more interested as it’s a pretty terrifying concept. I just don’t believe interstellar and lightspeed travel is common/easy enough for aliens to devote so much effort into seeking out life, travelling for hundreds/thousands of years just to destroy any other lifeforms it detects. There’s no benefit to either party really, any resource you could get on a habited planet you could find on a number of uninhabited ones without the massive expense of an intergalactic “war”.

Plus we’ve been sending out signals for years, we should already be dead - unless the aliens are going to take 1000 years to get here. And I don’t see how it’s worth it.

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We’re really bad at a lot of things, despite what we have achieved. Just because you have a piece of material doesn’t mean you can just recreate it. It’s like Newton being handed a CPU. He may even be able to look at the nanoscale structures but he sure as shit can’t recreate it. We’re simply that far behind.

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The other day I heard a great line somewhere: Consider how humans and apes share almost 99% of their DNA. You’ll still have a tough time trying to explain the stock market to them.

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It kinda sounded that people have gotten badly injured trying to reverse engineer this tech. Maybe its simply impossible with our current knowledge. Similar to that native village that build fake planes, fake air-towers and fake headsets after a visit from the modern world.

There was a theory i read a while ago based on some whistleblower reports that pilot and ship where one entity somehow and that the pilot was able to control things inside the ship from wherever they are. Same report also mentioned that spacetime works differently inside and is bigger similar to a Tardis.

I don’t believe this is all true, but if the truth is even slightly similar it comes as no surprise that we have not yet figured out how to replicate it.

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I’ll believe it when I see it.

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You know it when you see it. Believing is for things you never have seen.

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Thats the point of the phrase. The idea is so unbelievable that it needs to be personally verified before it can be taken seriously…

Not to mention, you can see something and still not ‘know’ - stage magic, for one.

See also: ‘it has to be seen to be believed’; ‘i cant believe my eyes’; the word ‘unbelievable’

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No end of useless pedantry these days

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Yeah, no. You’re equating belief with faith.

I don’t “believe” things until that belief is justified.

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Question for you, do you believe in Evolution?

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Bruh. Literally thousands of studies out there demonstrate the principle of evolution. You need only look at dog breeding or crop breeding to see it in action, albeit human induced instead of natural.

We dont believe in evolution because one guy said it was true. And dont give me that ‘hurr durr but Darwin said it was true’ nonsense. He did (as did other contemporaries of his time) but it wasnt accepted until overwhelming evidence from countless observations and studies made it obvious.

Now lets look at this situation. One guy says he heard the government has non human remains. Not exactly the analogy you thought you were making.

And Ill cut this off at the pass because the next argument I always hear usually boils down to ‘we can only know what we see’ which is basically a solopsist argument. Which is self defeating because then you absolutely cant argue there’s merit to this guy’s testimony because you cant be sure of anything.

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Except it’s not just one guy saying aliens are here, it’s hundreds, and these three said it under oath unlike the scientists you speak of. Yet you believe the word of the scientists and not the word of these men. You don’t see the hypocrisy there?

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@DaughterOfMars @Holyginz You can see it scientifically. So, yes.

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Oh, you can, surely. But have you? As Mac says, “Have you seen these fossil records? Have you poured through the data yourself? The numbers, the figures?”

Confidently denying something because you haven’t personally seen the evidence makes you look as much an idiot as confidently accepting it without evidence.

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Duh

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You make my point so eloquently. You take it as a matter of fact that Evolution exists, despite never actually validating this yourself. It is, in your eyes, ridiculous to think that it doesn’t exist – after all, you were taught that it does in school. But before the 19th century the theory of Evolution didn’t even exist. Probably some speculated about it, but were not taken seriously. Yet you have fully accepted it without, as you say, seeing it.

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Trust me bro

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Doubt

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