Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump “doesn’t have anything to do with that”.

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

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I don’t know anything about it. What is it? I guess it’s got some good stuff in. But I wouldn’t endorse it. Whatever it is.

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some good stuff

If you want to live in medieval time with your wife/servant, sure.

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You were lied to, unfortunately. Project 2025 was always their plan, and as you’re seeing now, they’re going full steam ahead with it. The best thing you can do now is learn from this mistake. Don’t trust what politicians tell you they want, or tell you they’re doing; see for yourself what they’re actually doing.

By the way, you’re going to get responses from like 95% leftists since it’s lemmy. Doesn’t mean they’re wrong though.

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What kind of a moron believes anything a politician says, especially a openly fascist cunt

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Like 80% of the US apparently

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What? Bro I voted for Harris lmao. I’m also a wannabe Canadian, don’t like this country.

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The period is tripping everyone up lmao

I honestly need to know. From an actual Republican who believed trumps words

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Fair lol. I try to type how I would speak so it’s meant to be a pause

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Edit: apparently the part in OP starting “From a Republican…” is not meant to imply that OP is a Republican. As it lacked a main verb, I assumed it was ultimately meant as a relative clause and misassigned it to “I”. Leaving this comment anyway but it doesn’t apply to OP.

I appreciate you taking the time to write this post, and I appreciate you noticing this trend.

But I’ve got to be honest: the writing was on the wall the whole time. Being in the Republican bubble doesn’t really change the fact that you only get here from a lack of critical thinking and a general susceptibility to propaganda. These are things that many people spend time and resources getting educated about. It’s hard to have sympathy when the whole country is now suffering because so many were so sure they knew better.

If I sound angry, I am. I do hope you take it constructively, but you also need to understand: most of the damage has already been done. It doesn’t really matter how you feel from here on out, because the deed (from voters) is done.

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I voted for Harris lol, and that was because I thought she was the lesser of the two evils overall. I wish Michelle Obama ran for office.

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Then how was it that you “believed Trump’s words”?

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Reread the post, or remove the period

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I still don’t see them as Trump’s actual plan.

I’m like one of three conservatives here, do you really expect a response?

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Thanks for being honest. What is Trumps actual plan?

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Trump’s plan is an attempt at putting America’s economy back on track. Protective tariffs, less “aid” to foreign nations, deporting illegal immigrants, not acting like the world’s police when it’s Europe that will be affected most, that sort of thing.

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Contributions to global organisations is what is known as “soft power” - for example, the only time NATO article 5 has been invoked is by the USA after 9/11

And guess what - every other country stood up and came to America’s defence. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a pretty good deal to spend a few million for the billions you get back in cooperative agreements with the rest of the world.

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How do you rectify the idea of not being world police with:

"I have signed a declaration to use emergency authorities to expedite the delivery of approximately $4 billion in military assistance to Israel. "?

Or is that somehow different?

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First of all, the economy was doing fine under Biden.

Second, how is removing links to POC and female soldiers on the Arlington cemetery website getting the economy back on track?

How is banning the words “female”, “women” and “bias” in research papers getting the economy back on track?

How is sending researchers abroad questionnaires about their opinions on trans people and climate change getting the economy back on track?

How is taking away the passports of trans people and changing their gender getting the economy back on track?

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i was hoping for a response yes. and really hoping for an actual intellectual as well.

so what makes you think it isn’t trumps plan? even though you can follow the progress online of p2025 and trump is checking off each objective.

what do you see p2025 as? and do you think it will make america “awesome again”

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I see Trump’s plan as Trump’s plan. P25 holds some similarities, some things are just that obvious, like illegal immigrants should be deported, but it’s not Trump’s plan. P2025 is it’s own thing, some wishlist created by some think tank that got picked up by the news because it’s so stereotypical.

I think that Trump’s plan is an attempt to put America back on the right track economically.

Protective tariffs for instance, are a pretty standard way of protecting domestic industry. It’s expensive to comply with OSHA and labor laws, it’s a lot cheaper to make stuff in China and ship it over here. Tariffs make it so that it’s no longer cheaper. Bernie Sanders agrees, even if can’t directly agree with Trump. https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump-tariffs/

Does p25 have anything on tariffs? No, they don’t.

P25 does have stuff on things like racial discrimination, which no politician in their right mind would support.

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P25 literally does have stuff on tariffs and it’s exactly what is happening right now.

It starts on page 765. https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Like literally the entire section from page 765-783 are just about tariffs and how high to increase them.

And an article discussing it https://seekingalpha.com/article/4769053-what-project-2025-tells-us-about-what-will-happen-tariffs-april-2

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Republicans already passed the removal of DEIA in the workforce. Idk how you feel about that but that can be seen as racial discrimination which a lot of Republicans have shown don’t give a shit about. A lot are pro white power, women are baby makers. i also can’t see how someone would think p2025 or “trumps plan” as a good thing. I see no benefits to destroying government agencies with no though or plan before hand. How many times has he fired a department only for him to go “woops . We actually needed those people” and then rehire them? 3?.. 4?. Like what’s the point? A lot of Republicans say “we are finding the fraud, so much winning”. How do you feel saying that or hearing it knowing that trump is convicted of 34 felonies? Was on tape gloating how he walked on in naked 15 year old girls and is an actual fraud to the country?

How do you feel about our administration literally editing the Internet and leaves of history to remove anyone of color or nationality other than white?

How do you feel about doge finding “wasted tax payer money” but trump plays golf with tax payer money? I’m sorry I just don’t understand and no one has ever answered these questions they just deflect. Like you can’t deny trump is a fucking scum bag monster pedophile

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Tariffs are one way to protect domestic industry.

They are completely useless when that industry does not exist already. When an industry doesn’t exist and you want to build it, you need subsidies, not tariffs.

Do you believe the US has sufficient industry to protect? Or that we should instead be focused on growing more?

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so what makes you think it isn’t trumps plan?

They’re an idiot, duh

Their name is eerily close to a reference to a famously horrible and Nazi-infested (like, actually) instance, especially given their previously discussed viewpoint, so they’re probably also a Nazi openly lying about their beliefs

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The fuck are you talking about?

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Reddthat isn’t a Nazi instance, wtf.

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However they’re told to feel

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