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Do you’re telling me that it had nothing to do with swallows being either European or African?!

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It could grip it by the husk.

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It’s not a matter of where it grips it! It’s a matter of weight ratios!

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I’m so glad that this 50-year-old joke is still funny.

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A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut.

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Depends. Does the coconut weigh more than a duck?

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I don’t know, I wasn’t expecting some kind of Spanish Inquisition.

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No one ever does

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Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science?

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But then of course, uh, African swallows are non-migratory.

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Caribbean from Asia? did they take the Panama Canal 400 years before it was built? there is not path that isn’t crazy

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Asia via the Pacific to the Americas, then a swallow grabs one and brings it to the Atlantic coast.

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African, or European?

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Excuse you, this is MURICA, those are FREEDOM SWALLOWS 🦅🦅🦅

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I assumed one finally got lucky and got around the southern tip of Africa while headed west.

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There’s a current originating in Indian ocean flowing south of Africa to the gulf of Mexico, before proceeding north east between Iceland and Great Britain. It’s why Scandinavia is so much warmer than the same latitude in the Americas. I’m 55 north in Denmark, and have hardly seen snow this winter, meanwhile Edmonton in Canada is 2° south of that.

Coconuts bobbing around the south of Africa is pretty wild, but not implausible.

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Great article. It’s worth remembering that DNA is only evidence that someone banged, and I imagine there’s a fair amount of contact that goes on before that.

A North American group from Colombia

I hope this person just meant to say “Native American”, and doesn’t really think Colombia is in North America.

(sorry, I’ve spent the last week proofreading articles…)

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They went around the horn like a real man!

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Coconuts have evolved to spread from island to island by floating, but it’s still weird that one happened to float to the other side of the world in historic times. I would have guessed that either the currents could never take a coconut there or that the currents would have taken a coconut there long ago.

(When I visit Florida, I see coconuts float by sometimes. Some have been in the water a long time - they’re covered in barnacles. However, if they’re still floating does that mean they might still be viable?)

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Y’know… I’d have found all this “coconuts floated from Asia to the Caribbean” stuff pretty far fetched…

But not two years ago I was fishing, and a goddamn coconut floated right down and bumped me in the leg.

In the Monongahela River.

In Pittsburgh.

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Floating upstream - what a coconut!

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Mysterious ways, I tells ya!

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The float yeah and that’s how they spread, but the coconuts were mostly brought by ships.

A coconut is really good on a ship 500 years ago, you have fresh water, some nutrition, etc.

Some ship gets destroyed with a load of coconuts on board and so it began probably.

Then when even the first ones have taken root, they start floating from isle to isle themselves.

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No, it was clearly the Swallows gripping them by the husks!

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I wish someone gripped my husk.

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Play your cards right and my friend will.

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"500 years ago*

Columbus makes the trip in 1492, 533 years ago.

Yeah that checks out.

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35 million years of coconuts in Asia and they didn’t float over until after traders established shipping routes to Asia?

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Climate change confirmed.

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Yes, but for human related reasons. Humans moved them around a lot in Africa and Asia - moving them from Southeast Asia to India and Madagascar is bound to have an impact on the currents they get caught up in.

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are you proposing some kind of Columbus effect where people heading to India will occasionally end up in Taino land by accident

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So thanks to humans more coconuts went for a swim?

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According to the first article that popped up in the search results the most likely theory is portugese traders brought them over from madagascar.

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