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So sad but at the same time LOfuckingL are people dumb!

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49 points

They had a 14-year old kid with them. That poor kid didn’t deserve to have been led to his death because of the adults he had no choice but to depend on.

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Are you more angry at the people trying to escape the crazy system than you are at the system that drove them out?

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9 points

Yes, a senseless death due to Ill preparation

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16 points

Nobody drove them out. This was a decision she made on her own accord and by her own free will.

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24 points

Yes, because they died in an incredibly predictable way by going out unprepared and they brought a kid to die with them.

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38 points

Is it a contest? Can’t you be angry at both the system and people endangering their children and that is enough?

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7 points

There is no “system” that drove them out. This was a choice they made. A bad one.

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19 points

The same system that provides antibiotics? Have you ever grown food? It’s a lot harder than buying it at the store, even when you include the time spent working at a minimum wage job.

Nature is brutal and unforgiving, these idiots did not begin to respect it.

They could never have survived without society to care for them, the proof is that they didn’t.

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26 points

The adult who dragged a kid along was trying to create her own system, which undeniably isolated him, subjected him to suffering, and killed him, so yeah I’m angry at that on his behalf.

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6 points

Oh my, finally a subinstance drama 🍿

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This is very sad, and preventable.

Reading the article it sounds like this woman unfortunately just spent too much time on social media reading all the doom and gloom of the media and people amplifying it in places like reddit, Twitter and Facebook.

wanted to live in a land disconnected from the world, which she viewed as chaotic and dangerous

she and her teenage son could be happy and safe away from the news, the viruses, the politics of modern-day America

had been “discouraged with the state of the world”

Rebecca Vance’s fears intensified during the pandemic

Consuming too much of this crap has really affected peoples mental health, from Trump, to BLM riots, racism, covid, it’s broken some people who spend too much time on social media.

So much so that they think the only way out is to hide away from society.

Reminder, friends, to take frequent and extensive breaks from social media for your own mental health.

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82 points

The teenager — whom Jara described as a smart and caring son who had been a “mama’s boy” and had been home-schooled

The only food found at their shelter was a single package of ramen

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5 points

she and her teenage son could be happy and safe away from the news, the viruses, the politics of modern-day America

Just close the apps. That’s literally all it takes to avoid like 90% of the crap that she’s talking about. But the viruses… did she think those don’t make it to the forest or something?

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Please, I knew people who were exactly the same back in the 90s, there are always people who go down the paranoia rabbit hole and don’t come back out.

Lot of them were praying for the collapse because that’s when God would raise them above the wicked heathens and sodomites because they’re secretly special but everyone else is too evil to admit it.

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74 points

The article said the poor kid was homeschooled, which is often a hallmark of religious fundamentalism. Not trusting the world and thinking it’s out to get you is also a hallmark of fundamentalism - but also of mental illness.

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45 points

She’s from Colorado Springs (massive conservative area) and she became concerned about the world and wanted to live off the grid in 2022 (when Trump lost). The writer of this article sure does beat around the bush and struggles not to say whether she was a right wing nut.

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And remember that despite some unique large scale issues we have today, there were much, MUCH worse times to be alive. “Majority of Americans live a peaceful life and die at 70-80” is not reportable news but still largely true.

Things are far from perfect, there are major issues, but I’d choose to live today than almost the entirety of human existence previously.

There were definitely way more violent times in the US: there were pandemics, there were revolts, there were wars. We live in an amazing time but it takes a bit of grand perspective to realize that all the bad news is easy to see in a matter of minutes. You can have death and destruction delivered right into your home in a matter of milliseconds. It’s much much harder to see all the wonderful things happening in the world

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22 points

Not reading Twitter has a tangible impact on my anxiety. You can feel it rise when I used it, fell away when I stopped.

I haven’t used Facebook in almost 2 years now and it’s so nice

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49 points

The BLM “riots” were 99% protests where the only violence was on the part of the cops harassing protesters.

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16 points

100%. Some people exploited the riots to break into stores but they were the significant minority, and additionally some were outed as bad actors who actually didn’t support the movement.

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42 points

You can’t lump in blm riots in there, those were protests stoked to violence by police officers, so what you should be saying it’s, corrupt police forces resulting in blm protests

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Man gotta love when those protesters storm the local grocery store to fight social injustice. BLM!

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You can’t deny that there is something fascinating about this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUO8secmc0g

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Maybe I’m being too generous, but I was reading it as this person consumed too much media, including lies and exaggerations, and it warped their world view. I guess I read it as a topic like and not calling them riots themselves. Kinda like the “race riot” in Tusla, but idk.

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36 points

First rule of the Rocky’s, don’t camp / hike outside in the winter, you will not survive.

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26 points

Even with a well-stocked cabin, the cold alone will sap your energy and kill you slowly.

Trying to survive it in a tent isn’t mere ignorance, it’s outright stupidity.

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22 points

I just feel bad for the kid. Mom wanted to get off the grid but Colorado has a history of killing those who try it without a lot of money and infrastructure to support it. Go off the grid in like South Carolina, not Colorado.

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11 points

Lol this is ridiculous. I’ve been hiking in the Rockies plenty of times during the winter, as long as you take the proper precautions you will be fine.

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4 points

ya right lool

i live in the mountains of CO. i sometimes wish the cold killed more consistently. we’d be a little less crowded

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3 points

That’s… a concerning viewpoint. You doing ok there buddy?

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6 points

That’s rather silly, as long as people can hear you shouting it’s almost always going to be safe no matter what you do.

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9 points

Starvation and cold. So sad

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What a terrible way to go. They sounded less prepared than even Chris McCandless.

I can’t believe I’m recommending reality TV, but Alone is a fairly good representation of being alone in the wilderness with no resources. It is extremely unpleasant.

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Alone is a great show. But I’ve got to tell you, while I watch and know I do not (currently) possess the skills to do what those folks do, there is a draw for me to want to do it. I mean I’m sure I’m over-romanticizing the thing to an extent, and - again - I know enough about me to know I can’t do it today, but there’s a distinct pull to want to.

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I did a wilderness survival camp in Arizona as a kid myself. I have had massive respect for nature ever since then. Even with a group of people survival in the wilderness is tough. I remember struggling for days to even make my first fire.

Alone showed me how different survival tactics are depending on your location. I feel like I could survive at least a few months on my own in the Sonoran desert, but anywhere else I would be done for pretty quickly. Cold snowy weather would probably end me on the first night.

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5 points

https://youtu.be/PK2SMIOHYig

Love this video essay related to this topic

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I think many people have that pull to nature, but most that do it and survive recognize that living without the infrastructure of the rest of humanity is at least extremely challenging and so will thoroughly prepare.

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I would guess a good portion of US adults, these days, have no idea how to survive away from modern convenience for any length of time

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