cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27423053
[Video] ICE arrests PhD student
The Fourth Reich is being established under our eyes. What’s the point of social media if a bunch of idiot mods can stop the world from seeing this very essential information?
I would like to have a better definition of what constitutes “political”, what is “humanitarian” then?
Should this be clearly defined per instance?
Like we don’t even have Reddit anymore. All we have is this sputtering slow barely anyone here fresh fragile digital space where we can share some minor resistance, can we at least not have any self sabotage here?
Whats the complaint? Which community did you post this to? If it was posted to a community on lemmy.ml then its fair for them to remove the post, its their instance and they dont care about these posts. If this was reddit you’d have no where else to go. At least with Lemmy you can post to a community on a sane instance.
Lemmy ML dont like the post because they are in favor of the government snatching people off the street without due process.
Well argued.
I didn’t post it, I just saved it somewhere on .ml and it is gone, and found it back on !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world
My question stands though, I sense that “political” is used fairly broadstrokely It almost means “complicated, longer than 5 second attention span” stuff.
With political meaning “relating to the government or public affairs of a country”, e.g. a broad definition too. However, a free person being essentially abducted on the street by plain clothes “law enforcement” could perhaps be seen as a humanitarian, civil liberty, freedom of speech, and some many others before it being just “political”.
Is there a guideline on Lemmy why we let the tankies be part of this or is a bit of an analogy to the r/TheDonald situation on Reddit? As in: I hope that we don’t slide the same way.
Is there a guideline on Lemmy why we let the tankies be part of this
It depends on your instance. There are 3 main tankie instances. Hexbear, Lemmygrad and lemmy.ml my instance blocks the first two but allows the last. This is because ML users are generally not obnoxious and keep their politics within their instances while the other two run wild all over other instances. Personally I dont feel like ML users are that bad. There is right wing lemmy instances but Majority of the instances de federated from them over their disgusting views. I think lemmy does a good job and has the infrastructure in place to promote a healthy range of political views.
Is there a guideline on Lemmy why we let the tankies be part of this
How much do you know about the history of Lemmy?
They’re right. I’m not defending the ban, but it is political. This is why MAGA elected Trump.
ICE is following Trump’s orders, which are an unconstitutional violation of the Fifth Amendment. When the Alien Enemies Act was used during WWII, even the Nazis had due process before being deported.
ICE’s actions are political.
Discussing ICE’s actions is not necessarily political, unless you consider human rights violations to be necessarily political as a topic.
Silencing discussion of human rights violations implies tacit support for the action, so I guess we know now where .ml stands. Any claim of leftist ideology on their part is a sham, they just have a hard-on for authoritarians.
Of course its political, what else would it be? You are talking about peoples rights (a political concept) being breached by an administration (poltical) using an arm of the government (political) as a paramilitary force (political).
My point of view is that a human rights violation is a human rights violation regardless of the context in which it happens, and is therefore an important thing to discuss and give visibility to.
Labeling it as “political” and using that as an excuse to hide discussion of it feels like bootlicker behavior to me.
Complaining about bans for posts on lemmy.ml is like complaining about birdshit on your car when parking under a tree.
I’m not complaining about bans. I’m trying to have a debate on why tankie-land needs to be part of this?
I don’t think you quite understand how the Fediverse works.
Lemmy has no control over the instances. It only provides the format and connects the instances with each other. That is the „fed“-part. Federation. A central authority controlling how each instance moderates itself would defeat the point.
If you don’t like an instance, block it and move on. Nobody except the person who runs the server can do anything to change how they run it.
Ok, perhaps I don’t. Can you explain what people mean when they call for “defederating from” an instance then?
