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Thanks for the insight, stacy! By the way, why are you still posting on a nazi platform? Oh for internet points? Cool, cool.

Edit: Damn, there’s more nazis on Lemmy than I thought.

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Edit: Damn, there’s more nazis on Lemmy than I thought.

As a rule, Lemmings are steadfastly against any course of action that might make an actual difference. They’ll post about guillotines and green Mario until the cows come home, since no one actually expects them to act on that sort of thing, but whenever anyone suggests anything that a typical person could actually do it’s nothing but excuses.

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3 points

Lemmings people in general

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16 points

It appears the extent of their participation is spewing vitriol and clicking downvote buttons. lol

Meanwhile, I’m going to a capital protest tomorrow. Those of you doing things, KEEP RESISTING THESE FUCKS.

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8 points

It’s cause you’re over at lemmy.world

It’s the largest, and therefore has the most mainstream people, who tend to be some flavor of liberal

In theory, joining any server gets you the whole federation experience… In practice, your home server will greatly affect discovery and shape what kind of people you encounter most

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42 points

Because that’s the platform that needs to hear it

Circlejerk preaching to the choir is fun, but doesn’t reach the people who need to hear it

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7 points

Yeah that’s bullshit rationalization. You don’t pay nazis to advertise anti-nazi sentiment.

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12 points

You’re right, we should send Bernie to CPAC. Bet he’ll win over lots of hearts and minds.

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29 points

I mean… yes

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9 points

That’s what Teamsters did at the RNC and people were far more angry at Teamsters than Republicans happy at hearing a working class message.

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27 points

I honestly want to see this.

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8 points

It’s better than sending him to a room full of people who already aggrees with him. It’s kind of the point

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1 point

Only if you send him with a fucking machine gun. Although bless him, he would never be into that.

I so wish he hadn’t been prevented from being president by the corrupt democrats.

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1930 was about money supply. That’s when bitcoin and all the other crypto coins will be handy.

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If there was only Bitcoin sure, but every time someone out there creates a shitcoin, it increases money supply, distracting people away from Bitcoin and gold. That’s why it will still be a bloodbath

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2 points

Be the change!™ Spread awareness of shitcoin scams. Friends don’t let friends hodl shitcoins!

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228 points

Did anyone mention how the 1930 tariffs sparked a wave of retaliatory tariffs by other nations, greatly reducing international trade, pushing a natural resources poor Japan to conclude that in order to survive it needed an empire, so it invaded other countries, committing such atrocities that even Nazi Germany was like “whoa dude, chill”, which lead to their participation in WWII, Pearl Harbor and the deployment of nuclear bombs? No?

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So you’re saying that Japan threw a shit fit because it wasn’t allowed to trade with other nations. Japan.

Fucking love it.

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It’s also wrong on every account; Japan was already doing imperialist shit for decades and it wasn’t tariffs but oil sanctions to try to stymie their fuel supply that sent them raging.

It wasn’t American tariffs, we didn’t fucking matter nearly as much to the world before WWII as after

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123 points

That’s quite the oversimplification, and I approve.

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63 points

Haha yeah, but I could do even better:

Tariffs bad because history

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Let me help!

Monke hurt monke

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There’s a lot of oversimplification. But the US embargo on Japan in 1940 led directly to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The US embargoed all oil to Japan. Japan calculated it had less than 2 years worth of oil before it ran out, so it needed to capture the Dutch East Indies (modern day Indonesia, more or less) because they were a major source of oil. The American puppet state of the Philippines was between Japan and the Dutch East Indies, so they had to deal with that somehow. Their decision was to preemptively attack Pearl Harbor and hope that they could consolidate their gains in the Pacific by the time the US was able to counter-attack.

Japan’s actions in WWII weren’t directly about tariffs, but they were about spheres of influence, like the Greater East-Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

A lot of Trump’s posturing seems to be about bringing back these spheres of influence. The US wants to control North America, taking over Greenland and Canada, and leave Europe to become part of the Russian sphere.

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82 points

Japan was expanding long before 1930’s. Korea, Mongolia, and parts of China were already under Japan long before 1930.

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But, the full scale invasion of China by happens around 1931, which then lead to the conflict that get China involved in WWII.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_incident

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33 points

Yes, full scale. But they already occupied parts of China before 1930. It wasn’t tariffs for Japan. It was sanctions on oil to force them to stop invading. Their response was to speed up invasions to secure oil.

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54 points

Yeah that comment is wildly ignorant of Japan’s actions and aspirations pre1930. Fuck Trump and these tariffs, mind you.

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57 points

I’d like to see U.S become so weak that Natives are able to reclaim their land. Imagine them scalp those nazi regime supporting mfers. Brings a happy tear in my eye.

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I theorize that this is why most/all US leaders have been pro-Israel. Because if they were anything else, the native population would be like “hey, so what about us and our stolen lands?” and US leaders will absolutely not deal with that.

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8 points

Yes, that! Also for me U.S seems to think that somehow everyone from Middle-East is a terrorist, even though that they are the worst terrorists themselves alongside Russia and Israel.

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42 points

I’m pretty sure it’s the money. If minority groups were lobbying just as hard to both parties, the populist leaders would switch.

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13 points

300 years of the US not giving a shit about the native population or about appearing hypocritical towards them would argue with your theory.

There’s not a single US leader who worries what Native Americans would say if they turned against Israel. They would just ignore them like they always have.

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Wait. I just realized something. One of the significant reasons humans are such amazing creatures compared to the other species is our generational knowledge we can pass down. But we have a saturation point. We need consciousness information downloading. Not immortality. But a way to download Wikipedia to our brains. That’s the next step.

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So basically ai chips.

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1 point

???

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3 points

Or vampires.

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1 point

not necessarily, just a brain chip, doesn’t need ai

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Possibly. I think that might be a temporary stop gap until we get to bio engineering. I doubt we are going to integrate with AI

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1 point

I don’t think it will work. Some knowledge you just can’t acquire without lived experiences.

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Sure. But you don’t need lived experiences to have full knowledge of economic histories or previous laws that have failed and should not be brought back. “Lived experiences” is just another bandwidth problem for most.

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The solution to that historically has been urbanization, which allowed people to become specialists in a chosen field. They get to absorb all the knowledge in a specific field of expertise, and then a select few are smart enough to push it further.

Unfortunately we haven’t really managed to apply this to politics yet, because those who are specialists in getting elected aren’t necessarily specialists in governing either. Nor are they likely good at governing everything, maybe just a specific part. But picking who is suitable enough is not done by specialists but by the general public, which is both democracy’s strength and weakness.

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I can agree with that. But something has gotta give? I think we’re in the right direction, we have some significant spedbumps along the way is all

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7 points

Agreed. It’s so tiring actually navigating Wikipedia. I just want a megacorp to select the best bits and inject them directly into my brain when they see fit!

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But make sure they take out anything that would negatively affect their company!

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