Xbox first party titles expected to hit $80 USD this holiday; Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.

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Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.

That is because the job of Game Pass isn’t to make money, it is to funnel customers into subscription services and destroy the idea that people buy games from artists.

Game Pass either succeeds and destroys the gaming industry like spotify did to music or Microsoft will abandon Game Pass.

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55 points

Correction: It is to make money, but the goal is to get people to subscribe now then jack up the prices once people start relying on it.

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25 points

It’s a long con.

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12 points

it’s bog standard capitalist formula. always has been.

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9 points

It’s already happened and will happen again.

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18 points

They’ve already plateaued and basically admitted to it. It’s a large revenue stream that’s not as large as they thought it would be, so now they’re going to coast with it and rely on just being a massive publisher instead.

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It’s happening across the board at every industry.

Rather than try to appeal to a larger audience, they’ve found it’s more profitable to take greater advantage of an ever-shrinking pool of saps.

Mark my words, they legitimately don’t want the business of people with standards or self-respect. They want to cultivate communities where the only participants are Stockholm Syndrome victims and their abusers.

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People never bought music from artists.

They bought it from record labels.

Whenever you see an artist complain they had a million streams and made twenty dollars, it’s not Spotify that’s keeping it all.

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4 points

Renting games and music seems like a bad idea to me, but I am in the minority. Buy a new album once a month for $8, after a year I have 12 albums. Pay that to spotify and I have nothing.

Gamepass is priced more aggressively at $12/mo, but I assume it’s a loss so they can eventually raise prices. Even so, if I buy a new somewhat discounted game for $36 every three months, after a year I have four games. With gamepass, I’m pretty sure I end up with nothing.

But I don’t think humans are known for long term thinking.

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3 points

“Artists” lol.
The ratio is 100:1 (1 being an actual artist or a studio still enacting on this believe)

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2 points

Yeah, subscriptions are trash. Will be glad to see it go when it finally does.

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1 point

GamePass used to be such a good value, but it’s gotten so overpriced. I’d rather keep the money and spend it on a few games a year I get to keep. Plus, not being available on Linux and/or Steam Deck makes it easier to ignore. Never going back to Windows.

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59 points

It’s strange really. You can buy 4 extremely good indie games for the price of one game. And that’s at a 20 each.

And with steam sales and sharing…valve is fun.

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Trying to raise the “standard” price to $80 will have very nice ripple effects of more pricing diversity, where each game will really consider what it’s actually worth, which we haven’t had for a long time. Even now we’re getting first-party Microsoft titles releasing at $20, $30, and $50.

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I think all it will do is raise the ceiling of what publishers are willing to price games at. If they think they can get away with it, they’ll charge $80 instead of $70, with the rest being $70 and less just like it already is now.

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Steam doesn’t advertise at the scale of Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. It won’t have a ripple effect because it won’t change the degree to which artificial hype drives people towards the “Buy” button.

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A lot of games priced at $70 right now are having a rough go of it, so charging more on top of that isn’t going to help, but there are the likes of South of Midnight and Clair Obscur launching at $50. If your game isn’t as hot of a commodity as Mario Kart, you’re probably going to try to lure people in with a lower price.

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Steam doesn’t need to. It’s got the steam sale and a hundred million people to share memes of “sale so good spent all my money no time to play all the games I bought in such massive sale”

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3 points

How much is Factorio worth though, everything?

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5 points

The amount of time I’ve put in it could have cost me $200 and it would still be one of the best $/hr games I have

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If they charged according to value no one on Earth could afford to buy it

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you dont own those games brotherman

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12 points

Not ALL steam games have DRM. Yes, you should buy from GOG whenever you can, but if you use Linux like me, GOG doesn’t give a shit. It can be hard to decide, support DRM free games and proper ownership with GOG, or expanding compatibility with Linux and improve it in general. If its cheaper on steam cause of a sale or something, I’ll buy on steam, then years later like with DOOM 2016 for example, I’ll buy it when it hits like 4 bucks on gog. That way, I have acces to an offline installer, and I show support and interest to valve for investing in proton.

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Another option is to buy through Heroic Games Launcher. Heroic gets a cut, and GOG sees what they’d have to do to earn your entire dollar.

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2 points

I’d almost argue the same with modern consoles with all the crappy digital bullshit and planned obsolescence

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Your not wrong. If it weren’t for steam being absolutely stellar than I wouldn’t be buying games from them. I would try to go through gog. But with their work on proton alone I personally give them a pass.

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To run the games i wanna play would require a pc worth 3 ps5s

Edit: people here don’t like facts, but where I live a pc that matches a ps5 is around $1500+ it you’re lucky. Yes your pc is better than my ps5 in the same way that your Ferrari is better than my Honda. But I like Hondas.

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6 points

You can also tweak the graphics settings and get a budget PC.

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Again, no. Why not just get a ps2? I want current gen games and I know that for this to be comparative on pc it costs nearly triple

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4 points

You can play other games, there is so much to choose from just drop the expensive ones.

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Again no, that’s not my taste. I’m just saying steam doesn’t work for most people. The convenience of a console alone is always gonna keep me. To know i can buy a game 5 years after the console is released and it’ll run. PC gaming is superior, but it costs way more and takes way more work. Im it’s not convenient for casual people like me, especially since I want to sit on my couch with a controller and not have to interact with a computer

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53 points

That’ll fix their record low sales!

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2 points

“Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to get some cash for our console, it’s called xCloud”

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if anyone was looking for a good time to switch to PC, it’s now. some stuff will be harder but you’ll have steam sales and control over your own device (more than a console anyway, if your running windows you’ll still have to put up with Microsoft).

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if your running windows you’ll still have to put up with Microsoft

Luckily, there is another choice. Linux runs pretty smooth and has gotten much simpler to use over the years.

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14 points

All hail Proton!

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4 points

that’s what I was implying I switched back in August

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14 points

Plus steam deck is pretty solid.

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Yeah, I’ve been an xnbox user since 360 but I don’t think I’ll stick with another console.

I’ve been looking at handheld PC`s…

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personally I prefer a laptop over a handheld but those should work decent too

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2 points

I have Win11 at work and its frustrating as hell. Definitely switching over to linux when I decide to buy a new pc

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Thank you so fucking much Nintendo for upping the standard and the everyone else falling in line because consoomers didn’t scoff at all and sold out pre-orders

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Like Nvidia video cards did during the pandemic…

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Valve hasn’t gotten the memo yet. Someone email them again?

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No no no no someone stop them !

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I think it was actually publishers like EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, and Activision that started the price increase. For big titles they started raising them to $70 a year or two ago, then to 80. I think I remember Diablo 4 launching for $80, or so.

I only know this because I refuse to buy from these publishers.

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