https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy
Francis Julius Bellamy (May 18, 1855 – August 28, 1931) was an American Christian socialist Baptist minister and author.[1] He is best known for writing the original version of the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892.
Most of the people who have “we the people” plastered on their car probably don’t realize the preamble to the constitution also says “insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare”.
…they made people that didn’t have freedoms say the pledge.
You did have the freedom, but nobody told you that you did. There aren’t a lot of perks to growing up a Jehovah’s Witness, but never having recited the pledge is one of them.
I didn’t think that was the kind of freedom they were referring to.
And “made” is relative. I’m an atheist, so I skipped the “under God” part. I was in a pretty liberal school district so I’m sure I could have gotten away with not doing it at all, but peer pressure is a hell of a drug.
Every accusation is a confession.
They’re so hard for patriotism because they themselves are traitorous cunts and they assume everyone is and needs to be kept in line.
I got in-school suspension for refusing to stand for the pledge, they told the kid from Puerto Rico they’d ship him back on the dingy he sailed in on.
Damn, when/where was that? I was raised in Alabama and didn’t stand/recite the pledge a few times in high school around 2010 and didn’t get in trouble for it. Definitely got some snide remarks and looks, but never actually in trouble.
Phillipsburg High School, New Jersey. IIRC. ~2003
Not long after 9.11 so things were a bit tense I guess.
If Metallica released their 1988 album And Justice for All today, MAGA would whine and accuse them of going “woke”.
Ironically, classic rock/metal is having a really hard time grasping the concept of not being assholes
Yeah, I grew up as a huge Megadeth fan. They had a lot of anti-war, anti-religion, anti-establishment lyrics. Imagine my surprise when Dave Mustaine turned out to be a conservative.
I think a lot of the classic rock vibe was about being anti-establishment, with little or no care for the actual ideas behind it. MAGA people see themselves as anti-establishment (despite, you know, everything), so it makes sense that a lot of the more superficial classic rock people would adopt it as their persona.
Twisted Sister: “We’re not gonna take it!”
Narrator: “They did, in fact, continue to take it.”
Dee Snider at least had the conviction to stand up in front of Congress (Along with John Denver and Frank Zappa) to defend against music censorship (fuck you Tipper Gore). He’s not exactly a radical leftist but he’s been consistently pro-Ukraine and vocally opposed to Trump (and George W. before that)
It was always a tool of indoctrination. As it turns out, if you say something often enough, true or not, you tend to believe it.
To make it make sense, ask yourself “was this ever really true?” And, of course nothing is perfect, but what I mean to invoke is the idea that perhaps it was never even remotely true.
