This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.
Yeah , the usual pro-israel talk.
I can show you countless evidence of Isreal doing worse several times in the past but people like you don’t care and never will.
Same goes for you, you won’t accept, that israel maybe isn’t as bad as it’s made to be
I saw enough dead child, women and men from the Israeli strikes on schools , hospitals and homes. The horrible hunting screams of fathers and mothers after loosing their children. The empty stare of the sole surviving childs and the ones holding their toddler sibling near the rubbles of their destroyed home, standing not far from the decapitated body of their mother. I saw it happens many and many times before. The expression “it’s a complicated situation” being etched in my mind as I read the responses feeling helpless that the worst crimes can be tossed behind these words. It’s not about accepting Isreal it’s seeing the atrocities they’ve committed countless times before remaining unpunished, disgustingly cheered and applauded many times.
But It’s okey. Humans will destroy themselves sooner or later and these atrocities will forcefully stop.
Maybe if they stopped doing all the things that make them look awful we’d change our minds. But putting over 2 million people into an open air prison and constantly killing them and targeting children and even journalists and medics as they have? How could anyone think they aren’t bad, unless you just don’t care about any lives but Israeli lives.
Your logical fallacy is tu quoque.
Oh yes, they have fallen for UN provided statistics https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
6400 Palestinians killed compared to 300 isrealis? Totally just knocking down hamas’s headquarters every time!
You know that the UN isn’t a reliable source on that topic ? The council for humanitarian affairs is literally full of anti semites.
And it’s near impossible to differentiate between civilians and terrorist
Disagreement with Israel doesn’t make one an “antisemite.” I think Israel needs to read “the boy who cried wolf.”
Not to argue one side or the other, but that data most definitely does not include this recent attack.
If the numbers being reported are to be believed, then the number of Israeli fatalities has doubled if not tripled overnight.
I am not a fan of Hamas, I just have to ask, wtf are the Palestinians supposed to do, and if you aren’t expecting an animal you’ve backed into a corner to attack, wtf is wrong with you?
Those statistics are a preamble of why Hamas did this. I’m not at any point saying that it’s a good thing, I’m saying that violence is literally the only tool Palestine has.
Both “sides” have human lives in the middle getting chewed up.
One of them also holds all the power to stop all of this
Also - A 3 hr notice before bombing civilian infrastructure! How quickly could you move out given 3 hours!?
Yeah, but they won’t. They have their stated goal of wanting to erase all Jews from this earth.
The other is demolishing buildings, where a terror organisation is hiding, with a 3h notice.
How much CNN did you read to come to this conclusion?
Gaza is literally 5-11km thick the entire way down, with nearly 6,000 people per square kilometer. That’s half the density of New York, in significantly smaller buildings.
Where are these people going to go, when 30% of Gaza is indiscriminately carpet bombed? They’re not even allowed to leave the city. They can’t go to Egypt, they can’t go into the sea, and they can’t go to Israel. The roads are literally blocked, while 100,000+ people try to flee the bombing zones. Oh also, did I mention they no longer have a source of water and food?
Where do you find that they are indiscriminate carped bombed ? It’s mostly the other way around. And fun fact. Most of hamas‘s rockets land in Gaza, as they are shit. This kills civilians or injuries them in Gaza. And they get free healthcare in Israel. But Israel are the bad guys, I guess
You my friend, are the embodiment of hypocrisy.
There is no good side here. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
Everything you’ve posted in this thread is bullshit.
Israel just told them to evacuate the north HALF of Gaza. What are 7ntalking about??? Admit reality at least.
Carpet bombing requires an air force. Israel has one and Palestine does not.
Go fuck yourself Settler
Wow what a valuable contribution to the discussion. Piss off.
There’s mountains of evidence of Israel torturing or raping children, pregnant women, and elderly Palestinians. I am happy to show you some of that evidence.
The magnitude of the crimes committed by Israel is not even comparable. Israel has officials and generals who brag about raping Palestinians.
So you’d be cool with somebody bombing the building you live in as long as they gave you 3 hours notice?
“history repeats itself” as in the people who only condemn needless killing when Hamas does it, but ignore the Palestinian cause the rest of the time.
It’s almost like motivation, methods, intentions, and circumstances matter and not just body count. For example, intentionally targeting civilians to maximize civilian deaths is not the same as accidentally killing civilians with collateral damage while trying to minimize civilian deaths.
Guess which side this is, then:
Scores of people, mainly women and children, have been killed in multiple air strikes on the main road connecting north and south Gaza, as people carried out an Israeli order to flee their homes.
According to the Ministry of Health, at least 70 people have been killed in three separate air strikes on the road, with the latest killing at least 40.
The Israeli army said in a statement on Friday that civilians must leave Gaza City in the north, and that they would not be allowed to return “until we say so” and until “a statement is issued allowing this”.
However, locals have reported a number of attacks on the Salah al-Din Road since then. Survivors, speaking to local media, implored others not to make the journey for fear of being targeted by the Israelis.
“Do not leave,” a distraught survivor of the attacks told local media.
“They bombed the convoy. They bombed it on Salah al-Din Road. They bombed the ambulances.”
Another survivor said the attacks were a “direct targeting of women and children”.
“I was in the truck. There were about 200 people. 90 percent were women and children. We took the main road that the entire world knew we were taking. My entire family were with me. Out of nowhere, they dropped a bomb. Everything was black and I lost conscience for 10 mins,” they told local media.
“When I woke up I saw a mother lying with her baby, whose brain was right next to him. I heard the ambulances then they bombed again. I took cover and after a few minutes tried to check the damage, then they bombed again.”
When Israeli soldiers are bragging about raping and torturing people, it’s very clear what their intentions are
while trying to minimize civilian deaths
If that’s what they’re trying to do, they really fucking suck at it.
And the motivation, methods, intentions, and circumstances don’t matter a bit to the victims and their loved ones.
No. Hundreds of thousands will die in response to hundreds dying. The comic is still fully accurate even if “a single missile” is still condemnable.
When it comes to war, there can be no holdbacks because hesitation means life or death.
I felt just like this after 9/11. I don’t know enough about your country to tell you what the right thing to do is. But I wish that the USA could go back in time and just gradually assassinate Al Queda with the CIA instead or something. Those occupations were doomed from the start.
Shall we begin an era of endless terror by proving it works?
Just look at the US military, we already have
Where did I mock the victims? Do not put words in my mouth. Can you not make a half-sound argument without lying?
It IS NOT a disproportionate representation. THAT’S THE POINT.
I am very sorry you fail to realize what death Israel will doll out in response, but this comic is completely accurate in the proportions displayed.
You LITERALLY have fighter jets and bombers striking back against … paragliders with guns…
Again, NO ONE except fucking losers are saying Hamas did anything good. That doesn’t make murdering dozens of thousands of Palestinians OK.
I don’t think disproportionate response doctrine from countries like the US and Israel should come as a surprise after more than half a century of conflict. Why murder 100 innocent people of your opponent when you know they will murder 1000 innocents of your people in response?
It may not be a surprise but it’s still disgusting and worth calling out.
Take 9/11 for an example, in response to a few thousand dying, America invaded Iraq (who was not even responsible) and killed several orders of magnitude more people. As well as looting their wealth, subordinating their government and economy to American interests, and effectively occupying them for two decades. Anytime an American says “never forget” they should be reminded how thoroughly soaked in blood they are.
Likewise, when zionists shed crocodile tears for a few hundred dead festival goers who were depraved enough to go raving only a few short kilometers from the world’s largest concentration camp. They must be reminded of what they have done to Palestine. Invasion. Displacement. Occupation. Ethnic cleansing. Apartheid. Imprisonment. Genocide.
Ignoring of course the countless children they kill who aren’t part of hamas. The ratio of children to adults killed by Israel can only be reached by doing it on purpose.
You “switching sides” because you don’t like the media reporting on these murders is a joke and I can only assume a lie, because it doesn’t make sense.
The media reporting stuff doesn’t change what is happening nor the morals and ethics involved. Silly to blame the media for you choosing to support the murder of innocents.
I’d like to add even more context: ~45% of Palestine is under the age of 14.
Rules of the internet: you can safely discard everything that comes before the “, but”
I recommend you minimize the idiocy in this comment section by going offline.
Am I wrong? Every move they make seems to maximize civilian casualties on both sides. What has Hamas done to minimize civilian casualties?
Sorry for my aggressive response, I thought you were trolling but it seems you may have been serious.
In that case, yes you’re wrong. Hamas’ goal is liberation of their people, not maximizing casualties. Israel’s goal is establishing and maintaining a Jewish state, so maximizing casualties (belonging to the wrong religion or ethnicity) is their goal.
im not pro palestine im anti israel
war is hell, neither side is good, but resistance is only human
It is possible. But in this case, it is occupier vs occupied. An ethnoreligious state vs stateless people being ethnically cleansed. Something being possible doesn’t make it factual.
