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Protest for Palestine: They throw you in jail

Protest for Israel:

Anyone not seeing the colonial world order as fascist at this point is well beyond redemption.

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Prolly referencing the article about France from yesterday

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How do they defend civilians? How their recent strike helped civilians? Doesn’t heads of Hamas benefit of endless slaughter refuelling the hatred as their platform?

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Is a protest for palestinians a protest for Hamas? What Hamas did to free palestinians or make them safe from Israel’s agression?

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Is a protest for palestinians a protest for Hamas? No. No, it’s not.
Next question.

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Do you ‘get in a jail’ if you support palestinians excluding Hamas?

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They did the only thing they could.

What would you recommend they do?

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It’s not the only thing they could, as they could as well not doing it. What they wanted to achieve with it?

I’m not a palestinian, you aren’t too. How we’d judje if our takes worth anything?

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It is good to show solidarity with Palestinians - it is not acceptable to cheer for Hamas on the other hand.

If you are able to differentiate between Hamas and the Palestinians and Israeli government and Israeli people your moral compass still somewhat works.

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That’s right, Gazans should peacefully protest for their rights.

More than 6,000 unarmed demonstrators were shot by military snipers, week after week at the protest sites by the separation fence.

Wait not like that

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From the article:

The Commission found that Israeli Security Forces killed 183 of these protesters with live ammunition. Thirty-five of these fatalities were children, while three were clearly marked paramedics, and two were clearly marked journalists.

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As we know, journalists from BBC and Reuters and Al Jazeera are clearly Hamas fronts.

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Seems to me that if people don’t want to get killed by Hamas, they could simply try not doing 80 years of genocide.

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https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/massacre-of-settlers-by-native-print-collector.jpg

You can support indigenous people without cheering on the raiders. /s

Anticolonialism isn’t just a word. Read Wretched of the Earth by Fanon.

It is a shame how many children were killed. It was very irresponsible for Israel to prop up a fundamentalist group to sideline the PLO, and then for settler parents to bring their children right next to the world’s largest open air concentration camp.

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This is all one big exercise in independence.

I’m glad we’re seeing people actually have independent thought instead of just rushing to say whatever will make them fit in with their tribe.

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What’s wrong with supporting Hamas? Are there any other groups fighting the zionists?

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From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free

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When you poke a caged dog for nearly a century and it bites your hand off, only a fool would act surprised.

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What part of my comment is making excuses for anything

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Both sides elect people that are OK with their people dying for their own government policies. One attacks to oppress an apparant enemy, the other attacks to free themselves from oppression. They are not the same, yet innocent people suffer and die because of both.

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More than half of the people alive in Palestine were too young to vote in their last election.

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@Szymon I agree with this apart from the “elect” part. Hamas last won an election in 2006, with less than half the vote.

Gaza hasn’t held an election in over 17 years and the majority of its population are too young to have voted then.

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Meanwhile all citizens just want to live their lives in peace.

It really is tragic and frustrating.

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There has not been an election by Palestine in Gaza for roughly 17 years. Hamas isn’t exactly democratic.

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Yeah, but I don’t blame them. It was either that or let Israel increase oppression.

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When peaceful change is impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

Israel politicians aren’t idiots and know this. They wanted their own people to die (and have been caught saying so, to paraphrase, “terrorism is a small price to pay for being a super power”) so that they could have an excuse to perform genocide, a final solution to the Palestine problem.

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Lol, you actually think there are “continuing attempts at long term solutions”?

Other than the ethnic cleansing kind of “solution” on Israel’s part, that is

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You think that practical obliteration of Gaza and hundreds of thousands of innocent dead is preferable to continuing attempts to long term solutions?

Who’s attempting long-term solutions? Because it’s sure as hell not Israel and its far right government. No seriously the current situation of Palestine is specifically so that the Palestinian people have no representative who can call for a two-state solution.

Also given what we see from the West now, I don’t see the empathy doing much.

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Would you choose a slow guaranteed death through oppression or risk a possible quick death for a better life for all your family and friends?

I’m asking you. Not your opinion of a whole population. I’m asking you. Imagine yourself in that camp, being bombed daily. What do you choose to do to survive and thrive as a human?

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There was no guaranteed death, things were very difficult and would have continued to be for a long time. At least there was hope.

Now there is a guaranteed death, thanks to Hamas.

“for a better life” in this case the leveling of the entire Gaza Strip and the obliteration of ANY hope of self governance?

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Half the population of Gaza is 19 and under. Sounds like a guaranteed early death for me if few people are living to an old age.

Why again do they need to be caged up for generations?

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There is no Hamas without Israel’s oppression.

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#1 rule of the internet: always discard everything before the “, but”

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