Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Mr Amirabdollahian said that he would be contacting UN officials in the region as “there is still an opportunity to work on an initiative (to end the war) but it might be too late tomorrow.”

More than 2,000 people have been killed in Hamas-controlled Gaza since Israel launched retaliatory airstrikes, the Palestinian health ministry said on Saturday.

Following the Hamas attacks, Israel announced a “complete siege” on the enclave and tens of thousands have now left their homes in Gaza to get away from the combat zone.

And on Saturday Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu told troops in southern Israel that “The next stage is coming”


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WW3 here we go

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Nah, it’ll be more like Proxy War 37

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Israel is 110% not going to heed this warning in the absolute slightest.

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Iran does not pose a credible military threat to Israel. They only have a couple of options - terrorist attacks from their proxies, maybe a cross-border incursion from Lebanon that would be a slaughter and change the balance of power there, or an air strike. Israel is so amped up right now that they’d respond with airstrikes inside Iran, and US carrier groups are in the area with no misunderstanding as to what they signify.

This is saber-rattling for theatrics.

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Also Israel had nukes and Iran doesn’t yet

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Think they’ll speed it up now?

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And did you say Russia was just saber-rattling back when they invaded Ukraine?

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You mean 2014?

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Iran are not wrong though, Israel need to chill.

It’s really annoying how the mainstream media is like yeah this is cool, when they’re commuting atrocities no better than Hamas committed.

I don’t know what it is with Israel that makes the world walk on eggshells but they have committed horrific acts and they should be called out on it.

Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

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I’m happy to believe you, but do you have any sources besides för middleeasteye.net that lists the atrocities Israel’s done? I can find the atrocities Hamas has done everywhere, but the eye seems to be the only place I can find claims that Israel has done stuff that is wrong.

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They might not be wrong about Israel committing atrocities. They would be wrong to add to it by committing atrocities of their own. The article certainly doesn’t seem to indicate they’ll “intervene” in a benign manner, and their track record is as blemished or worse.

This is doubly dumb if Israel is like they say. There is zero chance Israel would back down if Iran intervened; really, they’d probably have no issue extending the rampage to Iran as well. More people will die horribly.

It’s not right to sit and watch everyone commit various crimes against humanity. But adding your own violence with absolutely no chance at preventing loss of life, as Iran is implying they will do here, is somehow worse than apathy.

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Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

They are despicably evil.

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A nuclear threat would change that.

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Probably not all that much, to be honest. Look at India and Pakistan. That would be the closest example here.

Nuclear weapons’ most important role today is preventing an all out invasion of the country. Israel is already a nuclear power. They could launch a nuclear attack on Iran at any time. They don’t, for obvious reasons. Russia could launch a nuclear attack on Ukraine. They don’t, for equally obvious reasons.

I started my career in Soviet analysis, and ended up knowing quite a bit about the role of nuclear weapons in foreign and military policies. In the early days (50s), we thought it would be possible to fight and win a nuclear war. I don’t think anyone thinks that anymore.

There is no scenario which includes Russia using a nuclear weapon against Ukraine that does not end with the end of the Putin government if not the end of Russia as we know it. It wouldn’t even need to be a global nuclear war for that to happen.

The same holds true for India and Pakistan, which like I said is the best analogy. Implacable enemies with religious and territorial disputes, screwed over by colonialism, and ongoing low level violence.

Israel-Iran is the same, only more so. The I-P conflict doesn’t have the US as an unquestioning ally, unlike Israel. I-P have about 150 weapons each. Israel is estimated to have 100. Iran has 0, and even if and when they start production, they’ll have 5-10. And then you have to factor in the delivery of the weapon, which would be the opposition between the Iranian and Israeli (and US) air forces, with predictable results.

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By whom? Israel is the only one with nukes in the area.

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Yeah, the only thing Israel is concerned about is the international reputation. They know they can’t go full ham, even now every western government in support is dropping the “and I am SURE Israel will keep to international law” as a hint and reminder that there is a limit somewhere.

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Jewish people don’t eat ham.

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Lol… The UN has been trying to chastise Israel for decades now for literally breaking international law, and the US shuts it down with their veto power. They’ve already been doing it for decades.

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What about ballistic missiles? Iran has it…

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Israel hasn’t gotten many chances to test its other 2 layers of its defense system. Iron dome is just the first, short range layer.

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It’s signaling to the region.

Israel has a strong military for sure but they can’t fight every country. Also, declaring war on the Muslim world is not something Israel can win even with Western support.

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I mean they literally can fight every country, they did it before when they didn’t even have their MIC up and running yet

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Why would they?

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Clearly the statement from Iran had some impact, USA already released a statement that they want to avoid a larger conflict.

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So you’re ok with a world where everyone backs down at the word of Iran??

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They may tighten down some screws in preparation.

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USA already issued a response after the statement from Iran, wanting to avoid a larger war.

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Hm, Israel might be about to get more that it asked for…

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They didn’t ask for this and it’s not like they’ll even respond to a threat this empty.

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The topic of what they did and did not ask for can be discussed at long, to say the least.

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So this could widen to Israel/USA/UN(?) vs Iran/Syria/Lebanon(Hezbollah)/Gaza(Hamas) which would essentially be The War on Terror II. Which means another ~20yrs in the Middle East. Oh goody.

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Raytheon💦

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time to invest in knife missiles

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And time to short children in busses and weddings.

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The ones that shoot little knives from inside

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Lockheed 📈📈📈

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Just what the world needs. I am getting some faint WWI vibes too. Maybe I am just being paranoid. But it seems like this could expand to more middle eastern countries than you’ve listed, should things go horribly wrong. I could also see this being turned into another proxy war—revenge by Russia for Western support for Ukraine.

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I’m worried it might go further than that and devolve into a full-blown WWIII. I know that may seem far-fetched, especially since Israel isn’t technically part of NATO, however the US is still a major Israeli ally. If Iran gets involved, it’ll likely pull the US into the fight (though probably not with troops on the ground initially). If the US gets involved, Russia might get involved to keep the US busy and away from Ukraine. If Iran starts to become successful with Russian backing, the US might start putting troops on the ground to defend Israel, especially since if Israel collapses then Hamas will almost certainly commit genocide against Jewish Israelis. This would pull attention away from Taiwan, which means China may be tempted to seize the chance and invade while the US is getting spread thin. Meanwhile, Russia would likely seize the opportunity to make a hard push against Ukraine while the US is busy elsewhere. I’m not sure what India would do in this situation. I’m guessing that if China invaded Taiwan, then they might try to take the chance and fortify their borders while China’s busy and maybe back up Taiwan, if for any reason just to limit China’s global power; however I’m not really familiar with India’s diplomatic ties.

I hope I’m wrong, I’m probably wrong, but there’s a lot of tension in the world right now with Russia and China both trying to expand into other territories, and I honestly feel like we aren’t that far off a full-blown, WWI-style descent into another world war. I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia in particular is trying to push Iran into a war with Israel just so that the US quits funding Ukraine’s defense.

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Hope you’re wrong too.

I don’t like the idea of Hezbollah / Iran getting involved at all. That’s why two US Navy carrier groups will be in the area shortly. Wouldn’t be surprised if Russia pushes for that involvement though. And I could see us bolstering Israel with air power at a minimum.

I don’t think Russia has anything to spare for a big push, and I don’t see any reason to think our Intelligence community can’t juggle Ukraine, Taiwan, and Gaza simultaneously. Even if we were distracted, we aren’t involved enough in Ukraine for it to matter imo. But you might be right about finding. The right wingers in congress would probably get louder about dropping funding.

China going for Taiwan amidst all this would make this quite a circus. Ugh.

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I do not think you are paranoid. Maybe not straight out world war, but more war in the Middle East and Northern Africa. Egypt for example is suspiciously silent in the matter, although they are already trying to negotiate with Israel to curb the influx of Palestinian refugees. They sit straight at the border and their help for people in Gaza is still just discussed. I am sure they know other countries are watching their decisions on this.

Some people do not want to accept it but this is very much a war between religions as well. For many Muslims there is only one correct answer: Israel has to go. It’s part of their identity to want the area to be a Muslim country. This also has an effect on countries everywhere. For example in Germany there is a huge drive to stand behind Israel in this matter. At the same time, Germany has a big Muslim immigrant population.

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Well at least this time it won’t involve trench warfare, the deserts have too much sand that’ll fill back into any we try to dig!

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Let’s see how long that continues if Iran gets in on this.

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And the UN codemn the Hamas terrorist attacks, so what’s your point? And what occupation?

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The UN is always in favor of condemning Israel. It’s their favorite past time.

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