75 points

When Fallout Boy did the cover of We Didn’t Start the Fire, all hope was lost.

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10 points

Was it that bad?

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19 points

Maybe it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but I love it haha, basically a custom made “This is fine” meme in song form for our generation.

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4 points

I wish the events were chronological and they missed a few BIG things

But all in all I enjoyed it quite a bit anyways.

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6 points

I’ve thought of the 1975’s Love It If We Made It as this generation’s We Didn’t Start The Fire.

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2 points

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Love It If We Made It

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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12 points

gen z didn’t need a song to know who started the fire. now we all have anxiety because we’re the ones who gotta put it out

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200 points

The century of find out with almost no active participation in the previous century of fuck around.

A lot of “climate collapse global late stage capitalism and food is more and more plastic” stick with very little “convenience products are kinda nifty” carrot

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80 points

It’s kind of bittersweet being a very tail-end Gen X person. On the happy side, I got to do my childhood and teen years in the “fuck about” era, but on the unhappy side my entire adulthood has been in the “find out” era, and I get to remember what it was like briefly living in a world that wasn’t entirely going to shit.

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7 points

Tbf it was slowly going to shit back then too.

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7 points

my whole childhood in the 90s was the “ozone layer is dying” but at the same time optimistic outlook on life?

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Eh. It didn’t really start going to shit until 2001. Things stayed pretty darn good after 92. Not a lot of decades with that track record.

I mean, in the 90s we bitched about mostly distant global things because things were pretty good in general for most. And we had time to worry about less-catastrophic domestic things like Mumia or Peltier or what have you.

Now things aren’t so good and we end up bitching about far more local things because things around us are so bad.

It’s a great trick

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29 points
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14 points

As a zillenial (to young for millennial to old for gen Z) I can tell you that if feels basically awful only ever knowing the ruinous aftermath of the “fuck around” era

Outside of my immediate friends and family, whom I cherish, I couldn’t be fucked anymore. Everything is so shit all the time. I hope things get better of course and I look out for others when I can. But I’m just trying to keep me and my own afloat at the moment.

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7 points

Thank you! This was very well put. Felt like a big puzzle piece just fell in place and this discomfort of not knowing why stuff feels so weird nowadays let go a bit. ❤️🤜

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15 points

it’s kind of affirming to hear you say that. As a gen Z person I feel like we’re constantly being gaslit into thinking stuff has always been bad and we just complain more or something

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4 points

Older millennial here, so about your age, I have really early childhood memories before ozone issues, recessions, and planet fucking, after that it’s been one paper straw after another

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10 points

I feel like I could still join in on all the fuck around going on, but the find out has simultaneously already started and I can’t deal with the cognitive incongruence. Most people seem to be just fine with that tho. Must be nice being able to just turn your brain off and keep fucking the planet like that.

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11 points

We should have listened to uncle Ted

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54 points

Every day I wake up exhausted trying to look for a silver lining but more often not finding it until sleep.

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7 points

You can sleep!? Shit, that’s pure gold you got right there.

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291 points

My parents once asked me why I didn’t have enough savings to buy a house yet.

I almost lost my shit.

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The only people my age that I know who own their own house are also drug dealers.

Guess I should sell drugs if I want a house.

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50 points

I had a legitimate talk about doing this with my girlfriend. As much as I hate how sketchy it is, it still just seems sooo tempting.

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4 points

Just accept the fact you’ll never own a house and will forever live in a shoebox.

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30 points

But is it worse than tricking other people to work 40+ hours a week doing whatever you say and giving you most of the value they create? Because that’s the other option.

Plus if you buy a bunch of houses you can get them to give back most of the money you pay them.

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9 points

Funny fungus is cheap, quick, easy and low stakes with decent margins if you’re careful. Or so I’ve heard

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32 points

In comic, dystopian reality, selling drugs (really just weed) was how I graduated college debt-free, and graduating without debt was the only way I could take out/afford a loan for a house.

So apparently, it’s true what they say, whether planting or selling trees, the best time to do it was 10 years ago. The second best time is now! (Except don’t)

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I’m not sure if selling weed alone would be good enough in a legal state. I could corner the market on LSD tho. Ain’t nobody got that 'round here!

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9 points

Not too far from reality where I live. One dude already is doing time because he was blatantly dropping cash payments on things like a HOUSE and multiple cars.

The feds had a FIELD DAY with him.

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5 points
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My guy sold weed until he owned a house then had a kid. He figured he pressed his luck long enough. He also had an effective laundry.

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8 points

Damn I just thought about it and the only home owner friend I have that isn’t a drug dealer, is a cop.

I think you’re on to something.

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86 points
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I’m 35, and if you squint a bit at the mortgage, I “own” home. With my partner. And we’ll be paying it off for another 27 years. And we’re the lucky ones of this generation.

Buying a home with saving, fucking lol

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16 points

Well, the good news is if you have a fixed rate mortgage the crushing amount of incoming inflation may cut that back to like 15-20 years!

I’m a couple years older than you, but my partner and I feel incredibly lucky to own a home as well. We bought an abandoned property back in 09’ for 35k and have spent the last ten years fixing it up. If I wasn’t able to borrow 20k from USAA back then, I don’t think I’d even be able to afford the rent in my neighborhood nowadays.

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6 points

Once I hit my 40s, massive home diy projects have either become necessities (too expensive to hire out), pipe dreams, or like PA DOT working on route 202 in my youth (never ending with incremental steps that never improve the experience of driving). The energy loss is off the hook, and I’m not a flubbynutter.

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3 points

Pay off over 15 years if you can or you’ll pay about double the total value just from interest.

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2 points

I do like that theory. Unfortunately my wallet disagrees with it. Thankfully we’ve locked it in for 2.2% for 20 year, and semi-realistically we should be able to pay it off before that runs out. But the official period is 30 years, since that’s the legal maximum.

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39 points

ask them why didn’t they have savings to “buy a private yacht yet” at your age, because I would guess it’s roughly similar in the proportion of pay/cost

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11 points

LOL when my father asked me how much savings I had, I immediately knew that our life experiences were vastly different.

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1 point

My daughter is buying a house at 24. People are still buying houses with mortgages.

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