Maybe public opinion will change now that there’s white victims of the genocide too
Who do you guys talk to? Nobody I know is supporting Israel in this. Most comments I read don’t support them either.
Wtf? Even lemmy was crazy to read just a few days ago. Deranged comments everywhere in support of Israel. Plus a lot of governments support them directly as well.
On other platforms. The fediverse is lucky to be relatively unimportant, so the JIDF, or whatever the successor if it is called, is probably not active here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force
Shout out to France and Germany, who casually banned peaceful demonstrations as if that’s a normal thing to do in a democracy.
I live in the southern USA, evangelical folks in my area are fully onboard with Israel support. Facebook links constantly, sign boards in front of churches, those annoying free newspapers they publish and leave in the driveway.
It’s all anti Muslim and some really creepy genocide talk.
Well, in the defence of some evangelical communities, they’re just out there hoping the rapture will happen in their lifetimes and doing what they can to speed up the process.
Some of them don’t necessarily hate Muslims, they just want the world to end ASAP and believe supporting a militant Israel will speed up the process. And who knows, maybe they’re right.
Lemmy I’ve found to be better at condemning both Hamas and the IDF, bit try Reddit, FB, or X. Or people in real life.
and the voice of a british girl (i have nothing against her) seems to worth more than the victims. strange that you need a crying girl to measure a disaster when the victims are not white.
People need to relate. It’s easier for the West to relate to a british person than a Palestinian person. It’s hard to relate to just Palestinian because a significant amount is a part of Hamas, and Hamas wants me dead because I am not Muslim. Hamas was democratically elected. That means a majority of Palestinians think their way is the right way. That little british-palestinian didn’t vote for Hamas. I can relate to her. It’s hard to relate to people that democratically elected a group that wants to kill me.
Correction, the election that gave Hamas power was 17 yrs ago, half the population of Gaza is under 18. Half the population of Gaza was not even born yet when the last election took place.
If memory serves, that’s also around the time Netanyahu was funding Hamas. Your post blames children who couldn’t vote for Hamas more than the PM of Israel who was funding them.
Hopefully this helps you relate more to the children and young adults in Palestine who had no say in their either.
If memory serves, that’s also around the time Netanyahu was funding Hamas. Your post blames children who couldn’t vote for Hamas more than the PM of Israel who was funding them.
I cannot believe how much international media has ignored this simple fact even though it was all over Israeli papers…
Yes, Bibi funded Hamas to increase their radicalization and make it possible to commit genocide.
It’s hard to relate to just Palestinian because a significant amount is a part of Hamas, and Hamas wants me dead because I am not Muslim.
Hmmm, why do you think a “significant” amount is Hamas and that Hamas is out to kill non-Muslims?
If it makes you feel any better, I’m an ex Muslim so most Muslim countries want me killed or stripped of my rights because it’s not okay to de-convert.
Hamas was democratically elected
That’s a gross simplification of what happened. Since half the people in Gaza are under 18, there are only few left of those 40% (a very tight election btw) adults who voted for Hamas in 2006. Hamas also then kicked out all the other Palestinian parties from Gaza, so not exactly “democratically elected”.
The reason Hamas has support is because Israel is killing civilians and these civilians have no escape and no army except for Hamas militants. It’s not because Hamas are “wonderful” or any shit like that.
That means a majority of Palestinians think their way is the right way.
Really bad conclusion. Even if you think Hamas was “democratically elected” (last election was 16 years ago… such democracy), how does that make you think the majority of Palestinians think this is the right way? Again, many parties were running (Palestine is not a two-party state), and Hamas got 40%. But you forget all the Palestinian diaspora outside Palestine and everyone who couldn’t vote. That being said, this is really bad math since 40% isn’t even majority and a lot of those who voted for this in 2006 are dead now because only 2.4% (or something) of the Gaza population makes it beyond the age of 65.
That little british-palestinian didn’t vote for Hamas.
Even if they did, would they deserve to die under the rubble of their own home? No, neither do the Palestinians. There is also a big chance this kid’s parents supported Hamas since they live in Gaza and there are “options” in Gaza.
It’s hard to relate to people that democratically elected a group that wants to kill me.
Yeah, when you paint imaginary and generalized pictures of Palestinians in your head, it becomes hard to “relate” to them.
She’s British Palestinian, it makes sense that a British citizen strikes a chord with the British media.
She’s British Palestinian, it makes sense that a British citizen strikes a chord with the British media.
No it is not. I have litterally zero relation with the middle east, arabs and co but I am disgusted deep to my guts by this fucking genocide that we, moreover, are imposed to support!
There’s not better demonstration of racism and nastiest
That’s like going to Camden for vacation and being surprised Picachu when you get mugged.
Mariam went to visit her family in Gaza before Saturday’s surprise attack on Israel by Hamas.
How dare she go visit her family.
Didn’t they know not to be born as victims of Israeli crimes‽
Gaza is in the grip of terrorists who abuse population as their shield and keep drawing fire on them. As long as they are in power and the population is unable to get rid of them this is not a place for a child to go and visit relatives. Who allowed that to happen?
Shame about all the children who actually live there. Are those children not allowed to visit their relatives either?
Yes yes. Let’s have israel liberate them /s
When they cut of water, power and supplies it’s business even though the result is people dying and in effect genocide. When Hamas attacjs them it’s terrorism. Killing innocent civilians ON ANY SIDE is terrorism.
If Israel found an attack from Hamas at this point as hard to imagine as they claim to, why in the world would we expect civilians to be better informed.
Some people, obviously mistakenly, believed Hamas to have cooled down a little bit and to be genuinely interested in making the lives of civilians a little bit easier. The terrorist attacks of course illustrated forcefully that this was not the case, but it’s hard to blame civilians for being surprised by this when Mossad apparently had no way of seeing it coming either.
Her family voted in a terrorist organization that decided it was a good idea to poke the bear by committing an act of terror.
There’s something about this mentality that is so fucked that I can’t even.
It’s a place where people live. It’s not like they just walk around for years waiting to be killed by Israeli rockets. They’re not background actors in some episodic war movie or character actors in some horror version of Disney land.
How the fuck can this happen? I mean seriously how can people justify these atrocities in the name of “pick your favourite god”.
Feel very sad for this girl and for all civilians that want to just you know live their lives. And remember majority of Gaza is less than 18. Kids.
How so? Israel ‘settles’ there in what they call their holy land. Hamas yells Allah Akbar as they kill and take hostages. Are you trolling?
It’s a race war if anything. Religion is used to fuel it. But Israel doesn’t care about its gods. It only cares about people within its tribe controlling its country. Eventually Israel will have to choose between being Jewish controlled and being democratic, even. Because demographics are trending against there being a Jewish majority forever. They will ditch democracy. I mean, they already have by deliberately disenfranchising millions of Arabs from it. An apartheid democracy isn’t a democracy, it’s an oligarchy. Anyway, no, it’s not about the Jewish god. If you think Judaism is a religion, straight up, you don’t understand it. The Arabs also cling to their religion because it’s the one thing no one can take away from them. It’s also very effective at controlling people.
No, it has almost nothing to do with religion. The only part of the Israeli-Palestinian crisis that actually tangibly relates to a religious dispute, is the contesting claims over Jerusalem (because it’s holy to both Judaism and Islam).
Literally the entire rest of the conflict is based on competing nationalist claims.
Yes, even though Hamas is yelling “Allahu-akbar”. Believe it or not, they’re not fighting because of their religion, they’re fighting because of their political goals (namely in Hamas’ case AFAIK the destruction of Israel). They do also happen to be religious, but the primary conflict is a political one.
Religion is the coat of paint put on top of an occupation that is actually the root cause here.
Both the Zionists and the Jihadists claim to be inspired by their religion, but the actual cause of the decades-long conflict has little to do with religion and much more to do with decades of occupation and oppression.
Holy land my ass. Where does it say it’s okay to kill people in their holy texts? They literally have one commandment against murder (thou shall not kill. Anyone? Anyone?). Genocide much?
As far as Islam goes, murder is again a top sin. In the Qur’an. How can you justify killing people?
I do agree thought that this is about infighting in the region and religion is a pretext to justify atrocities.
From the Hamas Covenant itself:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
Also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_Day_in_Islam
I guess Israel stealing houses from Palestinian land is part of this so called religious war.
Why is she there? Evacuate her!
Problem solved, right? What do you do with the millions of people that are stuck in Gaza. You would think that jewish people out of all people would understand that genocide is not acceptable.
Israel is sieging their side of the border, and Egypt said they wouldn’t let foreign nationals out until Israel allows aid into Gaza, which hasn’t happened.
