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Maybe public opinion will change now that there’s white victims of the genocide too

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Who do you guys talk to? Nobody I know is supporting Israel in this. Most comments I read don’t support them either.

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I mean there are pretty… interesting protests all over the world.

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Shout out to France and Germany, who casually banned peaceful demonstrations as if that’s a normal thing to do in a democracy.

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Except most governments. They also fund humanitarian aid for the Palestinians on the down-low but publically they’re supporting Israel. Just look at the US.

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On other platforms. The fediverse is lucky to be relatively unimportant, so the JIDF, or whatever the successor if it is called, is probably not active here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

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They’re on full force on Reddit.

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I live in the southern USA, evangelical folks in my area are fully onboard with Israel support. Facebook links constantly, sign boards in front of churches, those annoying free newspapers they publish and leave in the driveway.

It’s all anti Muslim and some really creepy genocide talk.

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Well, in the defence of some evangelical communities, they’re just out there hoping the rapture will happen in their lifetimes and doing what they can to speed up the process.

Some of them don’t necessarily hate Muslims, they just want the world to end ASAP and believe supporting a militant Israel will speed up the process. And who knows, maybe they’re right.

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Wtf? Even lemmy was crazy to read just a few days ago. Deranged comments everywhere in support of Israel. Plus a lot of governments support them directly as well.

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Bruh where have you been, I’ve seen the most sanguine comments being catapulted to the top of feeds. Although not as bad in Lemmy as i saw it on reddit.

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Lemmy I’ve found to be better at condemning both Hamas and the IDF, bit try Reddit, FB, or X. Or people in real life.

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Well. That was eye opening.

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Time.com, one of the most-read news sites on the planet, is supporting Israel unabashedly. “Nobody I know” isn’t the same as “nobody”.

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-21 points

Why is she there? Evacuate her!

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Israel is sieging their side of the border, and Egypt said they wouldn’t let foreign nationals out until Israel allows aid into Gaza, which hasn’t happened.

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Israeli missile blew up the Gaza side of the Egyptian border crossing and was not accessible.

Do they think God smiles when they destroy the only humanitarian corridor?

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Problem solved, right? What do you do with the millions of people that are stuck in Gaza. You would think that jewish people out of all people would understand that genocide is not acceptable.

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Poe’s law in effect, I guess. I read this as sarcasm. Obviously it is inhumane to give her the choice between becoming a refugee and being bombed.

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That’s like going to Camden for vacation and being surprised Picachu when you get mugged.

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Mariam went to visit her family in Gaza before Saturday’s surprise attack on Israel by Hamas.

How dare she go visit her family.

Didn’t they know not to be born as victims of Israeli crimes‽

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There’s something about this mentality that is so fucked that I can’t even.

It’s a place where people live. It’s not like they just walk around for years waiting to be killed by Israeli rockets. They’re not background actors in some episodic war movie or character actors in some horror version of Disney land.

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Gaza is in the grip of terrorists who abuse population as their shield and keep drawing fire on them. As long as they are in power and the population is unable to get rid of them this is not a place for a child to go and visit relatives. Who allowed that to happen?

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If Israel found an attack from Hamas at this point as hard to imagine as they claim to, why in the world would we expect civilians to be better informed.

Some people, obviously mistakenly, believed Hamas to have cooled down a little bit and to be genuinely interested in making the lives of civilians a little bit easier. The terrorist attacks of course illustrated forcefully that this was not the case, but it’s hard to blame civilians for being surprised by this when Mossad apparently had no way of seeing it coming either.

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Yes yes. Let’s have israel liberate them /s

When they cut of water, power and supplies it’s business even though the result is people dying and in effect genocide. When Hamas attacjs them it’s terrorism. Killing innocent civilians ON ANY SIDE is terrorism.

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Shame about all the children who actually live there. Are those children not allowed to visit their relatives either?

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Her family voted in a terrorist organization that decided it was a good idea to poke the bear by committing an act of terror.

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Her family voted in Israel?

Damn well if they responsible for those genocidal fucks they should be held responsible.

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Lmao mans here clearly unfamiliar with Camden

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Camden, NJ

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Probably means Camden, UK. You know, the original one.

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Maybe they meant New Jersey.

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Yes. Camden, NJ is one of the worst ghettos in the US.

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How the fuck can this happen? I mean seriously how can people justify these atrocities in the name of “pick your favourite god”.

Feel very sad for this girl and for all civilians that want to just you know live their lives. And remember majority of Gaza is less than 18. Kids.

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It’s not a religious war, fyi

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How so? Israel ‘settles’ there in what they call their holy land. Hamas yells Allah Akbar as they kill and take hostages. Are you trolling?

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Religion is the coat of paint put on top of an occupation that is actually the root cause here.

Both the Zionists and the Jihadists claim to be inspired by their religion, but the actual cause of the decades-long conflict has little to do with religion and much more to do with decades of occupation and oppression.

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Holy land my ass. Where does it say it’s okay to kill people in their holy texts? They literally have one commandment against murder (thou shall not kill. Anyone? Anyone?). Genocide much?

As far as Islam goes, murder is again a top sin. In the Qur’an. How can you justify killing people?

I do agree thought that this is about infighting in the region and religion is a pretext to justify atrocities.

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No, it has almost nothing to do with religion. The only part of the Israeli-Palestinian crisis that actually tangibly relates to a religious dispute, is the contesting claims over Jerusalem (because it’s holy to both Judaism and Islam).

Literally the entire rest of the conflict is based on competing nationalist claims.

Yes, even though Hamas is yelling “Allahu-akbar”. Believe it or not, they’re not fighting because of their religion, they’re fighting because of their political goals (namely in Hamas’ case AFAIK the destruction of Israel). They do also happen to be religious, but the primary conflict is a political one.

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It’s not motivated by religion, it’s motivated by real estate, Israel does business and has Allied with other Islamic nations and organizations.

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It’s a race war if anything. Religion is used to fuel it. But Israel doesn’t care about its gods. It only cares about people within its tribe controlling its country. Eventually Israel will have to choose between being Jewish controlled and being democratic, even. Because demographics are trending against there being a Jewish majority forever. They will ditch democracy. I mean, they already have by deliberately disenfranchising millions of Arabs from it. An apartheid democracy isn’t a democracy, it’s an oligarchy. Anyway, no, it’s not about the Jewish god. If you think Judaism is a religion, straight up, you don’t understand it. The Arabs also cling to their religion because it’s the one thing no one can take away from them. It’s also very effective at controlling people.

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I guess Israel stealing houses from Palestinian land is part of this so called religious war.

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This isn’t just religion, it’s colonialism.

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I feel better now!

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If nothing else, this terrible unnecessary war has shown the West’s cognitive dissonance.

Hardcore right wing people generally hate Jewish people, unless the Jewish people are fighting Muslim people, then it’s “Jewish people have the right to self-determination!”

People on the left generally do not hate any specific ethnic group, however, we have a long history of criticizing Israel for their apartheid. Being met with the furor of everyone else calling us anti-semites is nothing new, but never has it come so forcefully from so many people all at once.

Moderates in the center aren’t speaking out at all for fear of being called anti-semitic, maintaining international relations with a nuclear power, and secretly hoping that this takes attention away from the climate crisis so we can keep going business as usual in favor of the ruling class.

More important than the cognitive dissonance though, is the fact that everyone in the West believes their opinion is the best and will solve everything.

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Yeah, after watching the siege of Mariupol and the destruction of civilian infrastructure by Putin, it’s kinda hard to defend the same actions, whatever the provocation, by Bibi

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If Putin did 1/100 of what Israel did/are doing right now, the war would have been terminated months ago.

OH and by the way, Russia is fighting a real army with logistic/intel support from the West.

Don’t compare them to your shitty cowards which is also benefiting of logistic support.

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Sorry, who are my shitty cowards?

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Anti-semitic my ass. I know jewish people that are openly open about their retarded leaders.

Jewish people out of all people should understand why genocide is not acceptable. A bunch of old power hungry people are responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being killed or displaced. That’s what God wants, amiright?

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Yes. Definitely better than closely open

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If it was genocide, why warn the people and offer humanitarian aid in the south of Gaza? Why no attacks on the Westbank? Why did they wait until Hamas attacked (again)? Why were Palestinians part of the population in Israel?

Israel certainly doesn’t respect the border to Palestinian land, but to call it genocide sounds a lot like a propaganda tool. Especially when it comes from people who ignore that Palestinians and especially the Hamas and other extremist groups in Palestine declared they want a genocide on all Jews. And this even predates the separation.

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You are also called and Islamophobe if you aren’t taking a stand against all of Israel in this.

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It’s fine… when Russia does landgrabs and “settles” in parts of Ukraine it’s called ethnic cleansing, genocide, illegal war, yada yada.

When Israel does it it’s just a right to self determination and if you disagree with that then you must be an antisemite nazi.

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