88 points

Scary but hey at least Reddit isn’t handing out the info so easily in this instance

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67 points

Would be mad.

There are many topics people discuss that are problematic. Forget piracy. What about people from authoritarian regimes, people from countries that are in danger to fall to authoritarians, even if they haven’t yet. Anything from years ago could become problematic if the wrong government gets into power.

Making jokes about God is no deal under some regimes, it’s blasphemy in others.

Drugs are a problem in a lot of countries, and a literal death sentence in some.

Making fun of a fringe politician is nothing when they are not in power, but becomes a problem if they get into power.

I am sure Reddit gives some data in cases of actual danger, which is fair. But if they start to hand out data for something minor like piracy, it’s going to be a problem for discussion on the discussion plattform.

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16 points

They will if they get a nickel for doing it.

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5 points

Whatever. It’s not really admissable. People talk about tons of things that they don’t actually do. For example, I talked today on teams about deleting a problematic app from our vcenter just so we didn’t have to deal with a compatible issue. Didn’t actually do it.

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14 points

I was discussing trebucheting politicians off the white cliffs of Dover earlier today on Discord. Not gonna do that either. Sadly.

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4 points

Why do you want to pollute the environment with toxic waste?

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5 points

But sire is the trébuchets are locked and ready! Do not make us turn back!

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This was something I suggested for this instance, since there is even a guide for hosting an onion service: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/135234

Maybe /u/db0 will have more time after the spam settles down, but it seems he’s got a lot on his plate at the moment between being an admin and doing AI stuff.

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9 points

Would federating work properly with an instance on i2p or tor?

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2 points

Also, would you want it to?

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2 points

Also a valid point

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@prole @ReCursing In most cases, the Tor instance wants to federate with clearnet instances. Clearnet instances might want to opt-in to federating with Tor instances - no child porn, but reading news about piracy is legal.

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Probably if all instances were using Tor, but it would be very slow

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9 points

If with properly you include insane amount of waiting for requests and timing out then yes

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yes. I have a Diaspora, another Fediverse platforms, account on diasp.org that I hav only ever accessed via their hidden tor service http://diasporg5tj4xz5mxkd5qnrppo7tbb6ynk2gtmjw5lmz6mtbesj3k6id.onion and their i2p connection http://diasporg.i2p , and i have no issue federating with friends that only use normie instances like Friendica. I have heard there are some maston imstances that support tor hidden service to. Maybe kolektiva.social?

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Good to hear that’s still up! I remember when some dude got that up and running shortly after the darknetmarkets sub was closed down.

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I mean you can very much onion route to a regular server, if it allows connections from Tor.

Unfortunately Tor means it’s very hard to IP ban abusers, so a lot of services automatically ban common Tor exit nodes.

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Good to hear that’s still up! I remember when some dude got that up and running shortly after the darknetmarkets sub was closed down.

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This is basically true. You need to have certain DNS configurations you cannot afford on Tor hidden services to federate, and while you still could be listening on a Tor hidden service, clearnet servers would still need to reach you to federate.

On top of that, even if you somehow manage to do that, either youre federation trafic goes through Tor (lmao how to DDoS Tor in 1 step), or It doesn’t and all servers can see your public IP, which deafeats the purpose.

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@skullgiver @Fonz It is possible; you have to set it up yourself and you won’t federate with many places.

Hosting Lemmy or Mastodon on Tor or I2P isn’t hard; you just host it, and link your Tor/I2P daemon to it same as any other website. But you have to be aware you’ll be cut off from the majority of other instances. You’ll be running standalone.

I am not sure about Lemmy, but Pleroma supports feeding all your federation traffic through a proxy; you can use one called fedproxy to split out your I2P federation traffic through your I2P daemon, and likewise for Tor. I am not currently running this on my server. It should still work for other fedisoftware than Pleroma. https://docs.akkoma.dev/stable/configuration/i2p/

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@skullgiver Yes, there are many ways to make sure your server connects to Tor and I2P sites. But that’s what the guy who ISN’T running a Tor/I2P site has to do, to federate with the Tor/I2P site. If you’re running the Tor/I2P site you can’t really do much on your side to enable federation.

Cloudflare won’t help because you need inbound connections. Some VPNs support *transient* port mapping designed for BitTorrent, but good luck trying to claim a stable port number for any significant length of time, never mind port 443 (which I’m sure is outside of the allocation range anyway). You’d have more luck trying to find a VPS provider crazy enough to let you pay anonymously with cryptocurrency with just a pinky promise that you’re not hosting child porn. Or just don’t federate.

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34 points

12 years ago, talking about piracy isn’t incriminating so why do the big movie companies need their info? So they can potentially intimidate them for more info they potentially don’t have?

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They might be looking for something specific. Like they are investigating an individual, or network of individuals, and this is just a piece of that investigation. I doubt they are asking for this to randomly look for opportunities to charge people with a crime related to piracy.

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If only we had legal avenues to obtain information from private companies… Oh well.

If you have a valid reason to investigate people, then you can get a fucking warrant. If your investigation isn’t into an actual criminal act, then maybe you don’t really need that data so bad.

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2 points

Agreed. Glad Reddit seems to be doing the right thing here by acknowledging this.

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3 points

The time it would take to ask for these specific users and the research needed wouldnt amount to the number they would bring in if this would just be a shake down, I would guess you are right

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Really no idea why that timeline. In 2010 I got an email from whatever ISP I was using at the time politely asking me to stop torrenting music. They basically said, hey we see you’re doing this, please stop or you can’t have internet through us anymore. That is when I learned what vpns and tor browser’s are for.

Seems absolutely bonkers that any corporation would be digging back that far for media pirates. Absolute waste of time.

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I got a similar email once from my ISP, but it was more of a “this is your first and final warning”.

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5 points

For real. And even if they were to find the users, which is a longshot, those people could say, “no one tells the truth on the internet.”

This fishing expedition is a waste of resources.

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155 points

The MPAA really is grasping for straws aren’t they. Ever since people were able to stream movies during the pandemic and found it was a much cheaper more enjoyable experience, they have been trying to invent ways to drive people back to the theaters. Now they are suffering major block buster busts and they have to point the finger at someone so they think, “it’s those darn Reddit pirates!” Its funny that they don’t realize they caused their own demise. But really I wonder, why specifically 2011?

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2011 is well outside the Statute of Limitations for infringement…

That’s three years with some wiggle room for ongoing infringement.

This is likely an intimidation/shakedown thing.

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5 points

Sounds more like they’re going after Grande. Belief being the testimony would allow them to build a case that Grande incited or somehow induced privacy which would strip them from a number of legal protections that may apply to service providers.

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1 point

Could be that they’re looking to block similar usernames in their streaming services?

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67 points

Right? Yeah, piracy is the reason people don’t go to the movies. It has nothing to do with the overpriced, nasty concessions (cold, overly salty popcorn), dirty floors, uncomfortable “reclining” seats, gimmicks (4DX, RPX, XD), staff that can’t be bothered to turn off the lights at showtime or properly configure the sound systems. All while you’re paying $15 per ticket and $30 on snacks.

These morons live in an entirely different world.

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12 points

I think they are short staffed aka underpaid.

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17 points

Agreed. That means that the current business model for movie theaters is unsustainable.

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Not to mention the comparison between watching a movie at home, where you know it will be silent, versus the risk of having at least one (but often more) groups of people who will not shut the fuck up the whole time.

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20 points

Can also pause, rewind, fast forward, lie down, and more at home

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13 points

The gap between reality and what corporate shills who probably don’t even use their own product think is reality is ever widening.

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It’s funny because we subscribe to the AMC A-List and go to the movies quite a bit (obviously this is in the US). But it’s because a) we have a couple of AMC theatres close by, and b) it’s just me and my spouse, no kids involved. So it’s something that to us is worthwhile (having a night out a few times a months to see a movie on the big screen). Also, we never buy concessions. I can’t imagine how an average family with a bunch of kids can just go and drop over 100 bucks on tickets and concessions on any given night.

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It has nothing to do with the overpriced, nasty concessions (cold, overly salty popcorn), dirty floors

Ugh, this just reminds me of all those times I went to the theater, and no matter where I walked I would hear the squish sound from my shoes coming into contact with something sticky… I do not miss that at all.

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Disagree that it’s more enjoyable than going to the theaters. There is a social aspect of going to movies with friend groups that’s hard to replicate at home. People don’t have space to fit 12 friends to comfortably watch a new release.

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