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Oof

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Tots and pears

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It’s almost like guns aren’t a good idea 🤔🤔🤔

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CNN that Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve.

Yup sounds about right

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Felt like it had been a while since I read about a mass shooting in the USA.

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Yeah it’s been like a month at least.

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The last one was August 26th according to this wikipedia list, which is 60 days ago. But there were 2 in August 3 days apart, so… I guess it has been a while by comparison.

But only if you don’t look at this other list on Wikipedia. This list has only 1 of a chosen set of sources who referred to it as a mass killing, the other lists mass killings where 2+ of their sources called it a mass killing. I wonder how long the 3+ sources list will be before it gets it own fork.

I remember a time when each would be the center of news for at least a week.

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Yep. I got real suspicious when the first list said August, which is when I noticed it said that I should also look at the “more comprehensive” list. I opened that up and thought “yeah, yesterday, that sounds about right”.

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We only hear about the big ones these days.

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Just because they don’t report shootings under ten kills anymore does not mean they don’t happen. But mass shootings, i.e. incidents where four or more people are killed) are still daily occurances in the US.

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That definition is so ridiculous. Shoot 100 without killing a single one? That wasn’t a mass shooting.

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I would say that’s a mass shooting, just not a mass killing

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Now that would be newsworthy for being the most inept American gun owner.

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Just because they don’t report shootings under ten kills anymore does not mean they don’t happen.

I never said or implied otherwise?

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He was in an asylum and reported hearing voices. He’s a trained army vet and a gun instructor. And they let him keep his guns.

Fuck every single Republican.

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It’s okay. The other voice inside his head is a good guy with a gun.

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Hah. Fucking gold.

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More and more Democrats are also gun lovers so fuck all gun people, get rid of all the guns and you get rid of the issue.

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Gun restrictions aren’t enough though, the problem is people in general having access to guns.

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Actually if you’re involuntarily committed you already lose your right to firearms (iirc there are steps to regain your rights, but they were not taken here). Red flag laws aren’t just bad from a “gun” standpoint, they’re bad because “innocent until proven guilty” gets thrown out the window and it becomes “guilty until you can prove you’re not crazy,” and proving the negative is always a more difficult position. It perverts our whole justice system, and while I have issues with other things doing the same thing (racism for example), adding more is imo not a good idea. I’d rather see them actually enforce the laws we already have which while more stringent than “my roomate seems unstable,” also would have prevented this. I mean the guy was commited (making him a prohibited purchaser) and displayed violent ideation to a degree that warrants keeping him for a little while, so they let him out, don’t take his current guns, and afaik fail to input his commital to NICs, that’s three things that already could and should have been done in this specific case red flag laws withstanding.

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To be fair, Democrats generally want reasonable restrictions on guns, such as ones that would have prevented this person from owning them and more liberal ones would have supported mental health programs to help this person not reach this point, Republicans want neither.

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I’m in favor of mental health checks on an annual basis. Crazy people shouldn’t have access to guns. And you can bipartisan this all you want, the VAST majority of irresponsible gun owners are REPUBLICANS (or whatever center->right bullshit title they choose. LiBeRrRtaRrRiANz

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I don’t really buy that. I think it’s right-wing astroturfers trying to muddy the waters while gun lobbyists seek to tap into another market.

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Also worth mentioning he threatened to shoot up the local National Guard base prior to this shooting.

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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

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Let’s also remember that one of the first things Republicans did in 2017 was remove a check on people with mental health issues from purchasing firearms. Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses (NBC News 27Feb2017)

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Insane. This was 200% preventable

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