Tesla Model X Owner Has Had Enough Of Minimalism, Adds Physical Buttons::Tesla Model X owner from China has attached a panel of physical buttons to the vehicle’s main control unit for quicker access to some key functions.

238 points

Anytime I need to click on a touch button / non physical button I need to take my eyes off the road so I don’t click on other buttons wrongly… physical buttons in car is the way !

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71 points

I still misclick. It’s so dangerous.

Back when I was a teen I’d text and drive with T9 on a Nokia without needing to look at anything but the road. Now I have to concerntrate and time bumps to get try turn the demister on.

Physical buttons are just so much safer and easier since you don’t need take focus off driving.

I’ve thought about making an APK I can get going through Android Auto that simply converts my requests via LLM to commands for the car. But I imagine getting the manufacturer’s command lists is near impossible and then there’s all the shit blocking an APK permissions to control car components. It would otherwise be super easy.

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25 points

I’d be very surprised if they let an APK that wasn’t signed in some way by the manufacturer access any vehicle functions. A rogue app could do silly dangerous things. Wait a second, it’s Tesla and Musk we’re talking about here. No, I’d actually not be surprised upon reflection.

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9 points

I had my rebuttal locked and loaded until those last two sentences. What a ride.

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6 points

You could have an ESP32 connected to your phone. The ESP could control some relays or simply raise/lower pins to connect to whatever this physycal board is connected to. You make your own API from there.

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5 points

What car components would you like to be able to voice command?

Texting, calling and maps are already in android auto, and those are usually the ones in the car OS too, so I doubt they even have commands for other stuff. Maybe the AC if it’s even connected to the computer.

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3 points

The next generation of CarPlay is going to be able to control the AC and integrate with the car enough to take over all the panels. I haven’t seen Siri mentioned but I’m guessing Siri would be able to control it too.

I don’t really follow android so I don’t know if they have similar in the works.

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1 point

Tesla has an open API, and there are several apps and different types of hardware that take advantage of it, including Bluetooth hardware buttons.

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50 points

I want jackknife switches for every function, all wired to go chokBZAK and throw sparks at me every time I use my turn signal. Mad science maximalist aesthetics.

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Thanks for the visual. This helps

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5 points

This hits so close to home. I have had multiple experiences where phone-starers pull up so close to my bike while they are not paying attention that my wife could slap their hoods, and once I had a guy pull so close behind at a red light that his bumper was UNDER my rear fender.

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5 points

While stopped, keep it in first gear and hold the clutch. Plan an escape path ahead of time and park at a slant if you have to. Using your mirrors, remain vigilant of traffic approaching from behind. Safe rides! 🏍️✌️

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115 points

Simce when is a giant computer screen glaring in your face considered minimalism? I would argue the buttons return the car to proper minimalism. So glad to see this! Can we just yank all of those screens out of future vehicles?

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29 points

I dont think removing the screen complete is the right way around this. Having something that can display maps and more information is good. But it should have never become the only thing.

You need buttons and easy access to functions that are always available in easy to remember places. So that you aren’t spending attention away from the road when you want to change the fan control.

Fuck this bullshit touchscreen only nonsense, actual physical buttons are superior in a car.

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14 points

As somone that lives in a dark sky rural area, the computer screen totally distracts and prevents your eyes from seeing the road where there are no streetlights. It is like driving with someone pointing a flashlight in your eyes that you can’t turn down.

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5 points

Agreed. The screen should be an OLED so the blacks are actually off, and overall dim solely using easier colors at night, low intensity red hues are proven in Astronomy to not screw with your vision, for instance.

One of the first things I changed on my TLX when I got it was getting rid of the “blue everything” setting on the screens and going with a red interface and it made a world of difference.

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4 points

Physical buttons are better for everything that you want to be able to control without looking at

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1 point

Personally I think a good tactile display could fix this but I would prefer a voice control that really works more than any buttons. I’ve heard Teslas voice control is pretty good, but I have yet to be satisfied with any automobile voice control.

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1 point

This aesthetic minimalism and there’s minimalism as lifestyle philosophy. Those two are not related and often contradict each other.

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100 points

(author) "…but it obviously defeats the whole purpose of minimalism. "

Fucking dumbass, A single button to do one thing IS minimalism. A screen area to many ISNT

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67 points

Ngl I want my dash to look like a fucking airliner. I love that my MINI interior looks like a personal space ship from a 90s movie. Give me moar toggles!

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6 points

I want everything to be toggle switches. If I could get a keyboard made of 105 classic toggle switches it would be worth the effort to type with it.

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1 point

The question is, do you want them to toggle ‘on’ and ‘off’, meaning switching them on is like holding down the key, or send impulses in each position? (obviously with a master switch to reset then without triggering something)

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64 points

Meanwhile in my Volvo

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33 points

Although it’s been this for a long while now

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32 points

I know, I intentionally bought a 2017 so I would have physical buttons 😂

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11 points

Thing is, I really wanted CarPlay / Android Auto support. Having had that with a 3rd party Alpine deck, I really got used to it. It’s hard to go back.

But, having some of those controls behind several menus and screens is really annoying. Oh well, at least it’s not a Telsa and I can turn the air vents manually.

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6 points

At least they have physical buttons below the screen for media, hazards and heated windscreens & seats, plus all the steering wheel controls.

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For now. The new Volvos are getting what they developed for Polestar. Android Automotive for the head unit platform, which is dope, but even fewer physical buttons on the dash. 😬

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/08/the-volvo-ex30s-interior-is-the-ikea-take-on-teslas-playbook/amp/

My guess is that this will change though. I don’t even see hazards on the dash. I don’t think that’s even legal in a lot of places.

Edit: also, the current generation setup on Volvos has physical controls for audio, hazards, window defrost, lights, cruise, voice control, seat position, drive mode, and vent orientation. Seat temperature is on the screen next to climate controls.

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10 points

Unfortunately that’s absolutely hideous.

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8 points

Functional vs pretty… When it comes to something that affects safety I’ll take functional.

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2 points

That’s totally fair and everyone has different preferences. But I really don’t think it needs to be a trade off at all. My ‘13 Focus has buttons for everything important in addition to the touch screen controls and they made it look nice too.

If I’m gonna spend XC60 money, I want the styling to be something I enjoy as much as I enjoy the rest of the car. This console might actually be a deal breaker for me if I were shopping.

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2 points

What year model?

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4 points

2017 xc60 in my case, it’s not exactly like that (I’ve got a couple of blanks this one doesn’t have) but they still had it up to 2018 in the S60 and V60.

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