349 points

Actually, Elmo didn’t found Tesla.

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170 points

Didn’t he in fact sue the actual founders to be allowed to be called a founder?

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109 points

I thought he paid extra to be able to tell that lie.

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71 points

I believe the lawsuit was settled. I don’t really remember the details, but sounds super-Musky that that would be part of the terms of the settlement.

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7 points

Paying a Lawyer to make the others agree is kind of the same thing, right?

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18 points

Given his history, if he had to sue someone to be able to use a title, it’s probably not a legitimate title.

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7 points

I love how this could be a quote from a Crusader Kings community.

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33 points

I asked grok and it said he did. It also said earth was cylindrical.

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11 points

Are you sure you spoke to grok? Did it mention white genocide or mechahitler?

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29 points

That nickname is an insult to compassionate and intelligent muppets.

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5 points

i prefer Felon Stank

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3 points

phoney stark, dorkmaga, space karen.

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2 points

That’s an insult to felons and the concept of odors.

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For real tho.

I was never exposed to the show (etc.) actually & still find it terribly insulting.

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24 points

My university textbooks said he did. I was dumfounded when I saw that.

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Hopefully they didn’t charge you absurd prices for those shitty books, but i already know they did

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7 points

I hope your tuition is free then. Sounds like you could get a better education from chatgpt.

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Free at the point of service.

But that just means I’m paying indirectly via taxation. It’s still being paid for somehow.

Taxpayers are paying for lies to be spread at university level, to stroke the ego of a known Nazi and potential paedophile. Yippee…

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21 points

also how could steve jobs be visionary if he needed glasses

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10 points

Checkmate presbytarians

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7 points

His only vision was profit.
Needed glasses to count the profits in cents.

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he couldnt see that his pnet(pancreatic) cancer was a rare type, and it was slow growing compared to usual one( usually metastic by the time of diagnosis and pretty lethal). he went on all fruit diet to treat until it was too late.

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steve jobs sued and stole his way to apple.

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265 points

Elon musk didn’t found tesla. He’s also an idiot nepo baby, not a visionary.

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119 points

Elon to my knowledge hasn’t been the founder of a single project he’s been part of. He’s bought everything.

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Yep, he’s your typical parasitic orbiting-usurper, buzzing around people of talent until the opportunity presents itself for him to steal all their work while they’re busy making the future happen.

Steve Jobs was exactly the same. Wozniak made the Apple 1 a reality and before that, he used Wozniak’s discarded Pong PCBs to get a job at Atari. At Atari he was just a talentless socially domineering psychopath doing shakedown on the company’s nerd for his lunch money.

When assigned a task to create a cost-optimized version of the game Breakout, were he was offered 100$ for each TTL chip he could optimize out of the design. So he went to his “friend” Wozniak, who managed to remove 50 chips from the design. Steve Jobs made 5000$ (in 1976 money) and he “let” Wozniak have 375$ of this. All jobs did is the menial work of etching the PCBs sketched by Wozniak and solder some of them.

Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are truely despicable pieces of shit and I say as a society, and for the good of everyone, we should use the dystopian surveillance capitalism to find all people like them and box them right out so we don’t have to suffer such parasitic psychopaths.

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Unlike Elon, I feel like Steve Jobs legitimately had skills. Of course, it’s completely despicable of him to scoop more than 10x the profit compared to Woz in that example. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Jobs was a talented asshole, but Elon is just a no-talent asshole.

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His initial lottery ticket of a business Zip2 I think he was fairly a founder.

I know next to nothing about it because no one ever heard of it before Compaq had a huge case of dot-com FOMO and paid $300 million for it, where it promptly went nowhere like it already was.

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6 points

Who founded SpaceX, then?

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NASA obviously, all the technology, funding, lab structure, education pipeline and of course all the ideas are from NASA.

Spacex only exists so that NASA’s activities can be extracted rent from by outsides.

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16 points

Thomas John Mueller

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Ohh, so like he’s the Tommy Tallarico of tech

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3 points

Did… did Joey Kuras found Tesla too?

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3 points

Wait, didn’t he contribute like 100 lines of code to PayPal?

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Isn’t he the founder of SpaceX?

I think you’re right about everything else though.

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8 points

Same with Jobs on the “visionary” part – the only thing that guy ever visualized was bigger stacks of money.

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In fairness to Jobs, he may have been an arsehole, but he was also an incredible salesman who knew what his customers wanted.

I’m old enough to remember how genuinely captivating his product presentations could be. The shit that Apple pre-records these days is worthless by comparison.

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Sure, he was a good salesman, but any perception that he was the idea man was a deliberately cultivated lie. Woz had all the actually good ideas early on, then later it was other engineers.

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I think Jobs had his issues, but I do have to consider it fair for folks to claim him to be a visionary.

There was a presentation back in '97 where someone a bilt salty about Apple abandoning OpenDoc for Java and Jobs had a pretty solid response with insight.

Not so sure about post-iPod Jobs, but once upon a time he certainly seemed a respectable business leader with good product focus.

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5 points

One out of three ain’t bad.

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5 points

More delusional than visionary.

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Why is everyone so hung up on a side character

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169 points

Elon is not the founder of Tesla. He sued the actual founders to bury that fact.

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much like many of his other “projects”, he’s not the founder. He bought it with his inheritance, then trashed the product.

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4 points

Sounds like a constituion/lawmaker problem to me if he won/settled (i.e. paid to win).

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No dispute on my end but the fact remains he’s a unfitting example for the meme as he was the fourth CEO in the company’s history and wasn’t in the picture when it was founded.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/06/tesla-founders-martin-eberhard-marc-tarpenning-on-elon-musk.html

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doesn’t change the fact that he’s not the founder.

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Okay funny, but yeah Tesla on here kinda fucks it up because Elon is not a founder of Tesla, and he’s not visionary unless you count finding new ways to make it worthless. Elon is not visionary in any of his businesses, he just has money and pays people under him to try to make him look good. Emphasis on try

He is an asshole though, I’ll give you that

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Oh, but Elon is a founder, he paid enough to retcon himself as such, so he is.

Can’t argue him being a ‘visionary’ though, unless you count ambitions that are vague enough so they are not actually actionable and obvious enough that pretty much any random person would be predicting the same thing.

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Paying to say you are something doesn’t mean people need to accept it. He’s not a founder of Tesla under conventional understanding and he never will be. It’s as simple as that

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All we’ve got to do is forget how it went down and ask Grok to tell us instead…

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7 points

Eh, calling Linus ‘quiet’ kind of cancels it out.

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2 points

Until 2015 or so he did look good. Whenever the divers debacle was.

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8 points

'member r/enoughmuskspam ? Reddit was blowing him so hard there was a sub asking to please tone it down a little.

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That sub was literally spamming the most tho

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107 points

Gives musk too much credit

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Way too much. FAR from founder, fucking Nepo baby that acts like we’re all shitty because we weren’t born with a silver butt plug.

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25 points

Pretty sure it was a blood-diamond butt plug.

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15 points

Emerald butt plug in Musk’s case

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Many are still stuck in the snake oil he manufactures as his main source of income. China socials particularly because of the information gap. Keep making his image in the mind of the people harder to believe, just ask thunderfoot, it’s working

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Visionary Asshole Founder

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The AHole down a KHole…

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And Jobs

Woz was also a founder.

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But not an asshole founder

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But not an asshole founder.

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