and where did that bring you?

Farming basically invented work and employment. They should have realized something was not right about that back then.

Right, because hunting and gathering isn’t work. People just got food into their mouths doing nothing - like wild animals.

There’s a difference between working for your own and your communities good and working for someone else while not being allowed to keep your (fair share of) product/profit.

That’s not how farming started though. They started farming so that they can feed themselves and their community. It eventually devolved into that, but it’s not how it started.

This difference is capitalism vs about anything else

Early farming would have been communally owned land. But hunter gatherer life was not remotely as relaxed as dudes on yhe Internet would make it seem

I mean an-prim is like the dumbest ideology ever unless you actually think 50+% infant mortality and everyone who needs glasses being unable to survive is cool.

It invented having a relatively reliable food surplus.

I wish I could make all these neoprimitives actually live the life for a week so they shut up forever about it.

Practically every single tribe on the planet decided that the odds for farming was better than rolling the dice every year.

I think it’s more likely that it was better odds, and those that continued nomadic life died off at a much higher rate.

That and hunter-gatherer tribes tend to get genocided.

We have more food than we know what to do with and people are still starving. Growing your own food provides a reward someone like you not only can’t experience, but if you did you wouldn’t be able to understand it.

What the fuck are you babbling about?

I wish I could get them to come to an actual farm and realize we aren’t trying to kill them or ruin the world.

bro credit scores aren’t even real

True but last time the banks stopped caring about them we had the global financial crisis

They’re as real as property is.

Small-scale, local farming is where it’s at. Growing a bucket of potatoes on a balcony or helping out at a community garden are small but achievable steps to bring the food closer to us. In addition to sustainability, it promotes knowledge of how to produce our own food and reduces dependence on large-scale monoculture farming.

It’s nice to walk a few paces and pick up an ingredient for dinner with the satisfaction that you nurtured it. But mainly, I just don’t feel like going to the grocery store as much lol.

Check out !BalconyGardening@slrpnk.net :)

I do sure wish I had a balcony. I grew peppers and cherry tomatoes on my windowsill a few years in a row but the effort isn’t worth it for an apartment…

I feel ya! We work with what we can and if the space you have isn’t feasible, then that’s okay if it simply doesn’t work out.

That being said, here’s a few options to consider but do what you want. :)

One option is to grow some herbs since those tend to get pricey and they therefore offer the best bang for your buck. Plus they take up little space. Starting from seeds is the most cost effective (only a couple dollars for 1000s of seeds). Sow them in an empty plastic egg carton, nursery pots, or other upcycled plastic container. Then, you can germinate and grow under grow lights. Don’t bother with “grow light” marketed ones. Just the brightest, whitest generic LED bulb will do. If you run it all day, it’ll only cost a couple cents per month. Then, you can harvest fresh herbs year-round! Lamps can be found for cheap and sometimes free on Facebook marketplace.

Another option is finding a community garden in your area.

I do already keep herbs going as much as possible! (though I don’t do it from seed, lazy bum)

The community garden idea is great, but the ones in the city center here are… expensive and quite “hipsterish”.

Thank you for referring this community. Its the first time I see it and it was very inspirational. Cheers

I think most of the things you say are true, but small local farming isn’t going to solve world hunger. The bigger a farm gets the more efficient it can operate. The progress we made as a species boils down to how much more efficient we can do stuff.

For sure! Industrial-scale farming has been integral to the population growth of our modern society. It doesn’t hurt to alleviate a small amount of pressure from those systems at a local scale in a sustainable way. I mainly just find it fun to grow a few veggies here and there and thought others may be interested. :)

Absolutely, I planted some tomatoes and very spicy peppers. All of them failed (planted in the wrong month I guess). Definitely a learning experience and definitely something I’ll try next summer.

I really hope the plants survive the winter, but I might have to start from seed again

Didn’t you read the meme? Stop farming!

Industrial production of food is not the problem. Capitalism is.

I mean, good for you if you want to play in a garden with plants, but I don’t want to do that. And this kind of production is not enough to feed everyone.

Nobody is claiming an issue with large-scale food production, or that small, local gardens will feed everyone. Also, nobody is telling you what to do.

Rather, that there are benefits to growing even a little bit of your own food should you choose to do so. There’s no need to talk down and I hope you’re alright, because that’s a lotta strawmen.

I grow tomatoes in my balcony. Constructive and fulfilling activity, love it.

But I can’t imagine eating like 15 tomatoes per year lol

And that’s ok! Nobody expects to live off of a small garden, nor is it feasible for everybody to grow everything they eat.

It provides many benefits already, such as being a fulfilling activity as you said. It also cuts down on food waste since you can harvest when you eat it and leave it on the plant for a bit longer otherwise. It also reduces trips to the grocery store and reduces emissions of importing food over long distances. Finally, it’s much cheaper if you grow from seed and upcycle plastic containers for planting. Especially if you grow expensive crops like fresh herbs.

Small scale farming would not be able to sustain the human population as it stands.

No, but it will help. Do you currently have a plan if you were unable to purchase food at the store?

Probably starve to death after I ran out of tinned food.

How does local farming help reduce systemic food waste?

God damn you keep showing up here with the dumbest fucking, capitalism teet sucking takes. We get it, you love Elon Musk.

Yeah more ad hominem attacks. That’s a really good way to convince someone you’re correct, getting angry and lashing out for the crime of asking questions and trying to foster an open discussion.

For the record, I detest Elon Musk.