cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/5294605

Youtube, for so many years, was just too good. Yes, they changed the 5 star rating system to likes and dislikes and a few years later disabled dislikes altogether, but their algorithm mostly digs up interesting content and it just works for creators and viewers.

This might change soon. Their new strategy to disallow ad-blockers will frustrate a certain kind of viewer. Those who dislike surveillance and like open-source tech, those who use uBlock Origin and know why.

Just like a few years ago mastodon suddenly reached a certain kind of popularity, because twitter had their first big fuckup, maybe Peertube is next. It certainly is the most polished decentralized solution that doesn’t use a blockchain. Creators or fans could easily host their own videos, fans can watch it, without ads.

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No, because:

  1. Content creators want to monetize their videos, even if it is shit monetization.

  2. Users and content creators want discoverability.

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They can monetize their videos on PeerTube, can’t they? It has built-in Liberapay support

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I havent noticed any liberapay support on peertube channels. I can’t find any information on liberapay on peertube either, could you share some links?

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Hmm, sorry, I have probably remembered it incorrectly.
I remember seeing a liberapay-yellow button below the bottom right of some videos, but now I can’t anything about it either.

It seems there’s no liberapay integration, however there’s a support button if the channel sets it up. It can show arbitrary text, like links to liberapay and similar.
Here’s an example, and mentioned in the FAQ here

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That would be like saying Patreon is monetizing video.

No. I mean ad-supported income that automatically comes with YouTube. Not to mention members subscription and Superchats which are also built in functions and represent significant part of content creators’ income.

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I’m placing my bets on piped video instead, for now at least. YouTube needs something more tragic, like getting acquired by Elon Musk, before it bleeds for real.

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Afaik piped is not an alternative to YouTube just a different client for it.

If everyone suddenly moved to piped one day both YouTube and piped would probably suffer

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Yes, it’s a client. Well, for better or for worse, no chance that this huge of a user base will move to piped. I don’t understand why it’s not super famous yet, but I guess invidious and piped are simply fringe tech still.

That’s why I said that YouTube would need a major tragedy to get a real hit, real alternatives like Peertube are going to struggle a lot against the network effect. Nebula has a much better shot given the amount of content creators invested on it, and it’s still a long shot.

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Might be an unpopular opinion but I think piped is far worse of an experience than the default site/app

Doesn’t work half the time, can’t do 4k for some reason , audio is a bit scuffed and no recommendations

Don’t get me wrong I really want to like it but it has a while to go before it can get mainstream appeal

If YouTube has a major tragedy and people migrate to piped YouTube will find a way to block piped, it’s their database at the end of the day

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PeerTube will be a real competitor to YouTube when the Year of the Linux Desktop happens.

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Well, that’s perfect, because that’s going to be [insert next calendar year here].

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Commenting from the future. Here in 2039 and i cant believe how prescient you are!

2040 def the year it happens.

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Peertube needs to really federate if it wants a fighting chance. Having to rely on Sepia Search to find videos just won’t cut it for most people.

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It also needs some big content producers using it in order to anchor it. And that requires it to enable an intuitive business model for those producers.

Patreon integration, payment processor integration, and ads management. And that last one is kind of anathema to a lot of people and projects on the Fediverse.

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It already has “Patreon” integration, with Liberapay, which is better because there are lower overall transaction fees (Lp itself imposes none).

Patreon would be probably relatively easy from that I think, as that’s just one more platform that works in almost the same way.

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Not just using it. Using it exclusively. Nobody is going to commit to going to a new patient to watch just some of their favorite creators content.

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