cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/5294605
Youtube, for so many years, was just too good. Yes, they changed the 5 star rating system to likes and dislikes and a few years later disabled dislikes altogether, but their algorithm mostly digs up interesting content and it just works for creators and viewers.
This might change soon. Their new strategy to disallow ad-blockers will frustrate a certain kind of viewer. Those who dislike surveillance and like open-source tech, those who use uBlock Origin and know why.
Just like a few years ago mastodon suddenly reached a certain kind of popularity, because twitter had their first big fuckup, maybe Peertube is next. It certainly is the most polished decentralized solution that doesn’t use a blockchain. Creators or fans could easily host their own videos, fans can watch it, without ads.
I am trying to move to towards peertube more but the creators aren’t there yet so…
And I don’t think we can solve this easily. I’ve heard bigger creators say they want to make money with their videos. And Peertube doesn’t do ads, so it doesn’t pay the creators. And we’re kind of going in circles now anyways because your initial suggestion was to switch to Peertube because of the YouTube ads. We can not have them and don’t have them at the same time.
Maybe the solution is sponsoring. I heard ad revenue had declined anyways and many creators mainly rely on sponsoring nowadays.
I don’t think it’s an issue. If your content is good, you should be able to find an audience and if you have an audience you’ll be able to find sponsors. That doesn’t have to be by directly reaching out to sponsors themselves, you can work with intermediaries.
Youtube obviously dominates the space right now but it’s hardly the only viable business model. In fact I think it’s better if content creators have more control than YouTube provides.
Yeah I think the only way ‘creators’ will be there is if there is something to move across these larger ones, or at least makes sense to cross-post between YouTube and PeerTube. It’s going to be a hard battle to fight especially with PeerTube limited Space on most instances.
If interoperability were improved, Mastodon and Lemmy may be able to standin for discovery algorithms in the short term.
I’ve just signed up for access to MakerTube but yeah I agree, most Instances won’t be able to host 5+ years of content from users making rather the user or the instance to rather have to delete the content or the user to create a ‘second’ channel to upload more. Hopefully with time, storage get’s better and easier but quality of video files (and there for size) will most likely grow so it’s really a cat and mouse game.
Is there a peertube instance that is live music recordings friendly?
You could try https://makertube.net/about/instance? There’s even a lemmy thread about it: https://feddit.de/post/3348355
So far most instances do not want to federate so it’s getting anoying to discover new content.
I think they are Federated, it’s just hard to find users as one of the people on your instance needs to know what the creator is called before you can expand into, finding there content, this TBH kills the PeerTube experience as you need to use other instances or sources to find the creators you want to watch instead of just working like YouTube does.
Creators or fans could easily host their own videos, fans can watch it, without ads.
Yeah sure. Because creators don’t need to eat or pay rent or anything.
If people have bet their livelihoods on fleeting hobbies on platforms that actively fuck them over, repeatedly, then frankly I can’t be too upset about it.
People will make stuff for free because they enjoy it. Most people don’t have much free time to chase their creative hobbies; I wish we didn’t live in a world where artists have to justify their existence by monetary means, but let’s not pretend that ads are paying for the creative underclass.
A lot of people have jobs doing creative work like YouTube, even before the age of YouTube people where creating stuff such as TV Shows, Radio and Movies (Legacy Media). Sure a lot of people would still create something in free time but the reason people create quality content on places like YouTube is because they are being paid as a bonus, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to spend as much time on the content they create.
I agree, given my own experience in this regard. I’ll film what I’m doing because I think there’s a value in the techniques or approach that others may find helpful in their own lives, but there’s a limit to how much time I’ll spend editing it or adding effects/thumbnail creation/etc. That’s time that could be spent on the tasks that aren’t being done due to the setup and breakdown time for capturing the video, the amount of editing that does get done, or the time spent planning for longer/deeper dive videos.
Sure, there’s a slight economic advantage for doing those videos given what we do, but it’s not like we’re monetized. The collection of videos is primarily just because of my enthusiasm for what we’re doing, with my reliance on internet groups for social interaction coming in as a close second.
