I want to roll my eyes every time I see somebody take this stance, not simply because it is tiresome and it takes no courage to say, but mostly because it ignores the context. Every time. It not only overlooks how and why neocolonialism lead to Hamas, it overlooks why Hamas would resort to crude tactics like taking hostages (as if the Zionist régime was always open to dialogue), it overlooks why a substantial percentage of Palestinian adults support Hamas, it overlooks the decades of atrocities that Zionist authorities have been committing against the Palestinians since day one, and most of all, it overlooks the overwhelming amount of power that the Zionist ruling class has in this situation.

My response: fine, you don’t have to like Hamas, but to focus on condemning it repeatedly is to lose sight of the very conditions and the ruling class that gave rise to Hamas in the first place; it’s a bland inaction that gets us nowhere. If you say ‘Hamas is the real problem’ or ‘Hamas is just as bad as the IDF’ then I’m afraid that you have missed the point completely.

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Nat Turner and Spartacus? They should’ve tried asking nicely first.

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John Brown was funded by Iran and Russia, so who’s the real bad guy?

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I support Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the PFLP, the Lions Den, the Syrian Arab Army, the SSNP, the IRGC, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ansarallah, and the Hashd Al-Shabi.

I support any and all and every form of armed Resistance against the cancerous zionist entity occupying Palestinian, Lebanese, and Syrian lands. Each and every one.

And if you claim to care about what is Right and Just then you should too. It’s not 2013 anymore The battle lines are drawn.

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This.

United front means united front. It doesn’t matter that every single resistance coalition doesn’t agree perfectly on what should happen next. I see it compared to the Chinese revolution all the time, and that’s correct. This would be like criticizing the communists for allying with the KMT to resist Japan. Not comparing hamas to the kmt just making a point yk

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“I support the Palestinians, but I’m against Hamas.”

If this is somebody’s take, then they’re categorically not with the Palestinians. Outsiders, especially not the crackers who put Palestine in this situation, do not get to choose Palestine’s allies for her-- and the fact that they chose Hamas should speak MEASURES AND VOLUMES to the level of brutality the Zionist Axis has visited upon them.

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Precisely. Palestinian revolutionaries don’t give a fuck what these dumbass westoids think. You don’t get to oppress them and then police how they resist.

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Westoids will naturally support any segment in a given population that are willing to abide and collaborate with their shitty colonial rule, while being against those that are actually a threat to it. It’s like when redditors say they hate the Chinese government but not the people, of course they would be fine with Chinese people once they are broken up into a 100 different colonized countries and are powerlessly trapped producing Iphones in factories forever.

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Same energy as “hate the government not the people”

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Why though? In its current state, whether they (the people) support their government or not, they don’t have a say in political decisions made by said government, so the differentiation is really important. Otherwise, if we treat them as one in the same, we would make a mistake of believing in “collective punishment”, which is the exact tactic Isn’treal uses.

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because usually they mean by this is that they actually hate the people too

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peoples who say “hate the government not the people” usually do hate the people too. It’s like when incels say they are “nice”.

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Oh, okay, got it. I just don’t remember people using this rhetoric before, or might have missed it.

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What about class division? Can you oppose your government while supporting your people?

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