26 points

Great news!

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26 points

The universe isn’t this nice. I’m waiting for the bad news.

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14 points

The weed issue also passed but the legislature may just ignore the will of the people. I don’t think they can do anything about this though.

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nope, as soon as it ‘officially’ passes (how many recounts you think? would you place wagers on an over-under of five?) it’s part of the Ohio constitution. they’d have to run a second ammendment through to vacate it. and that won’t happen.

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All they gotta do is keep ruining education, encourage the religious right to have more babies (you aren’t a good family if you don’t got 10 kid!!), wait a few decades and try again.

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Off Lemmy I’ve already been assured by several dickhead accelerationists that this is actually bad, because it’s against the rules to successfully progress a liberal democracy when the One Right Way to effect change is revolution only. They’d rather people suffer more if it meant an end to capitalism, revolting “ends justify the means” mentality.

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13 points

Idk seems like referendums work so we don’t need all that other stuff.

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1 point

Yes… let the incrementalism flow through you.

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They’re certainly not bulletproof. It’s obviously been a hot sec at this point, but Proposition 8 in California of all places codified marriage as exclusively being between a man and a woman when it was legalized by the California Supreme Court.

Continuing in California, Proposition 13, which froze property taxes so long as ownership is maintained but allows that frozen rate to be transferred to family, has essentially created a situation where the state is subsidizing homeowners that are already substantially wealthier than the average person while also legally enshrining a class of people who pay much less tax by virtue of inheritable status. The perverse economic effects are rather obvious.

Referendums can be great, but voters are also generally going to be inherently selfish. Local control of zoning and housing policy, just to shit on California one more time, has resulted in a massive housing crisis. There are situations where it’s really important for lawmakers to choose the path that inconveniences everyone a little bit but solves a problem over the path where no individual is directly inconvenienced while the root problem only gets much worse. In Game Theory terms, referendums are very bad at handling prisoner’s dilemma style situations, since voters will generally pursue their own immediate interests.

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29 points

Those people have such a lust for violence and don’t care that the poor people they claim to be fighting for will be the ones who suffer most

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17 points

“Why won’t you die so I can avenge you‽”

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But when I think about it, those poor people are absolutely fucked right now. By achieving small victories like these they get nothing. We have luxurious lifestyles, while the poorest don’t even eat.

Fuck capitalism. House and feed everyone first, then play pretend with numbers.

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It’s because these people don’t actually care about socialism or equality. You can tell, because they don’t ever talk about those things. It’s all’s fantasizing about murdering their neighbors and enslaving workers under their system of autocracy in the name of their socialist God.

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So you want to usher in a socialist/communist society in the pursuit of freedom, egalitarianism, human progress, and the elimination of pointless suffering?

“Nah, I just want power to hurt people I don’t like, and the USSR had cool aesthetics.” – tankies.

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“Off lemmy”

How about trying off the Internet entirely.

You’re in a bubble, most people in the US couldn’t correctly define capitalism, let alone have such a strong agenda or opinion about it.

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“off the internet”

How about trying off reality entirely.

You’re in a bubble, most people in the astral plane couldn’t correctly define the internet, let alone have such a strong agenda or opinion about it.

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5 points

Too bad. They legalized weed in Ohio too.

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106 points

Glad people saw through the lies opponents were spewing. Ohio hasn’t had many blue victories, but I’m glad this was one.

Plus, recreational marijuana is passing as well. Sadly, that’s a statute and not amendment, so the dickheads in the legislature will probably fuck with it.

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Ohio has had two blue victories this year alone! We aren’t a deep red state, we are simply gerrymandered all to hell. The map was even declared illegal in the courts, and our dear government kept using the illegal maps anyways!

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If the Republicans can ignore the laws why don’t we just start ignoring their laws too. They want to shut down the government? Fucking ignore the crazy assholes. Simply refuse to lets a minority opinion dictate anything.

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12 points

If the Republicans can ignore the laws why don’t we just start ignoring their laws too.

Because the government has a monopoly on force, and you will get arrested and put in jail.

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From 1980 Ohio went Reagan twice, Bush once, Clinton twice, Bush twice, Obama twice, and Trump twice.

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24 points

What’s going on in Ohio lately? Did everyone stop taking their crazy pills?

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Pills? Those Toledo-stealing jerks are naturally like that.

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The bulk of us don’t take crazy pills, we’re just gerrymandered to high hell (I mean read the signs, we literally say it on our freeways…). All it really takes to see that is that whenever something goes to the polls that isn’t tied to districts we tend to lean more towards personal freedom.

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Lots of good people out that way, glad their voices are finally beating out the others. All the good people I’ve met there didn’t hesitate to tell me about how many not so good people there are there too though.

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FUCK! YES! FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS!! Holy cow, that was a desert, waiting.

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