Maybe a politicker who brags about being mentored by Henry Kissinger, a war-criminal whose record matches that of Heinrich Himmler himself, shouldn’t be referencing Hitler.
“matches that of Heinrich Himmler”, you mean the head of the SS and one of the main people behind the holocaust?
Have you ever considered that your life, and life in general would be better if you didn’t have such absurd and shrill opinions?
There is one way in which Himmler and Kissinger differs… Himmler at least had the backbone to go and witness the results of his policies in person - specifically, the Babi Yar massacre in Ukraine. Kissinger never did go see for himself the gargantuan atrocities he had “achieved” in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Timor, and Chile.
Oh, I forgot the other way Kissinger and Himmler differs… Himmler was hanged - Kissinger got off scott-free. So there’s that.
so you really REALLY do not understand the brutality of the Holocaust then, and less so the history of the sub-chinease peninsula, and Pinochet couldn’t hold a candle to what Himmler did
What like to the front? Do you know of other secretaries of state who went to the front?
Unfortunately, the American education system just kinda gives up teaching history after 1945. Otherwise, you might be more familiar with the US State Department sponsored coups and subsequent genocides in Latin America, the Middle East, Africa, and the Pacific Rim over the subsequent 40 years.
Kissinger absolutely was administering mass arrests and executions in US client states, from the overthrow of democracies in Iran and Egypt to the massacres of dissidents in Jakarta and Rio de Janeiro and Santiago to the arming of the Khmer Rouge and subsequent bombings in Laos and Cambodia. Say what you will about Himmler, but he only really had the reigns of a mid-sized European industrial power for a decade. Kissinger was instrumental in steering truly nightmarish foreign policies on an international scale for four times as long.
And when you look at how folks like Kerry and Clinton and Blinken consistently turn to the Kissinger playbook to advance US foreign policy in the modern day, he’s got even more blood on his hands by proxy than that.
I don’t know of anyone who thinks we can or should stop every genocide. Kissinger didn’t lead these things you’re talking about, or at least the things I I think you’re talking about. And he wasn’t unique in his views. Kissinger is not comparable to Himmler, this is a ridiculous post, shallow. .
I think Kissinger and everyone in the foreign service and executive branch who helped execute American foreign policy thought was that if two violent factions were going to kill each other, America might as well back the one it thinks it can work with to advance it’s foreign policy goals. Kissinger wasn’t a wizard. He couldn’t make the north and south Vietnamese stop killing each other. You don’t have to like it to pick a strategic interest and choose a side.
It’s called realpolitik.
I guess you’re one of those people who day that Hamas is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?
Nuanced, very nuanced…
Hamas is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?
A small paramilitary organization operating in occupied territory is doing the exact same as the Chancellor of a European industrial powerhouse?
I’m always a bit surprised when some terminally online guy tries to give people in Hamas this much credit.
Small paramilitary organization? Okay guys, we can call Isreal out for genocide while still acknowledging Hamas as a terrorist group that slaughtered 1,000 civilians, plus whatever else since then.
Hamas and Isreal both suck. The only people I care about are the civilians and dead kids.
I guess you’re one of those people who day that
HamasIsrael is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?
FTFY.
No, I’m not one of those people. Israel prefers Willy Pete to Zyklon-B, for instance - so there is a difference, I guess.
Calling Israel the same as hitler may be funny on an “I’m 15 and this is edgy” level, but it’s ignorant as fuck to claim that. Yes, the Israeli has committed and continues to commit atrocious acts, but it’s leagues away from what the Nazis did. It’s not even in the same ballpark.
Same goes for Hamas. It’s a horrible terror organization, it holds zero candles to hitler and his buddies
Bit of a false assumption, isn’t that? There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism, so trying to advocate for better while participating in an unjust system is a requirement for many people.
There’s no ethical way to run a nation. Lincoln was barely able to free the slaves and FDR couldn’t end segregation. Hilary listening to Kissenger doesn’t mean she supports everything he ever did.
Then maybe they shouldn’t run with a genocide supporting senior citizen as a candidate
Don’t forget rapist who fucked over unions and owes me 600 dollars and finished the wall
Biden was my last choice in the 2020 primary, because I knew that whoever we chose would run for reelection. We were picking the President for the next 8 years, and anti-Trump conservatives out voted younger left wing voters in the primary. Even if Warren did endorse Bernie, Biden still would have won with the other candidates’ endorsements. Without the pandemic, Biden might have lost, while Bernie could have pulled enough support from the base to stand a similar chance as Biden. Trump’s response to the pandemic pissed off enough conservatives to give Biden the win, but it also could have given every other Democratic candidate, including Bernie, the win.
However, this doesn’t mean Bernie wouldn’t have drawbacks as president. The mainstream media would certainly pull a Jeremy Corbyn on Bernie. The base and everyone on Lemmy would stand by him, but he would get torn apart by MMM for doing the progressive things Biden has done, and compared to Trump for even politely disagreeing with mainstream Democrats. If was principled and did everything right, he might pull a good amount of MMM watchers to his side, but many would lap up the propaganda.
Every mistake made by Bernie would cost him dearly, while Biden has the luxury of making way more errors because he was the most conservative candidate in the primaries. Left wing Democrats aren’t surprised by Biden’s lameness, while conservative Democrats put up with every progressive thing Biden does because every other Democrat would have done the same or worse. Most of the MMM doesn’t call Biden radical for doing progressive things, and left wing Biden voters are generally pleased that he has been more left wing than expected.
Biden’s biggest failures have been where he sucks in ways you didn’t expect he would. Fucking around with Manchin for months and doing nothing on immigration are huge failures. He claimed to be a deal maker, yet he tried to negotiate with someone who never intended to budge. Obama’s immigration strategy only lost him support, but Biden seems to think that he could avoid motivating the anti immigration crowd. It didn’t work for Obama and Hillary against Trump, and it definitely won’t work for him against Trump. The most conservative Democrats would still vote for him if he tried his hardest on immigration, as neoliberals actually like immigration for its economic benefits.
In short, Bernie would have an uphill battle against the media, while Biden’s mediocrity shouldn’t surprise anyone on the left. 2020 was where Democrats could have gotten someone better, and now we unfortunately have to live with it.
I think it’s amusing that Hillary thinks anybody gives half shit what she thinks at this point.
Yeah how much do people pay you to speak? How many copies did you sell of the last book you wrote?
I find it depressing that people still refuse to acknowledge the encroaching right-wing fascism when Hillary literally warned us all way back in 2016.
It’s almost like fascists gonna fascism.
Takes one to know one. She presided over the largest expansion of the military in most non-elderly Americans lives, encouraged the restart of nuclear pit production that is happening now, couped a democratically elected government, assassinated their democratically elected leader, and then bragged about it on national TV.
Her husband was instrumental in the dismantling of remaining New Deal era welfare policies, and intended to dismantle Social Security until his scandal broke. They’re a horrific, greedy, selfish family, with delusions of dynasty. No one genuinely interested in left politics has anything good to say about her. No, you can’t be a leftist and support overthrowing democratically elected governments abroad. Not to mention that she and her foundation actively supported Trump and other MAGA republicans campaigns because, in their delusions of grandeur, it would improve their chances to be elected.
BACK TO THE FORESTS WITH YOU YOU FUCKING GHOUL
She’s not wrong.
Yes, she is.
Hitler was never elected lol. He in fact got crushed in the popular election by 20% by Hindenburg.
The Nazi party, however, won the largest number of seats of any party in the Reichstag in 1932, but leftist seats actually had a larger representation, just split between different parties.
This scared the oligarchal industry types enough that they pressured President Hindenburg into appointing Hitler as Chancellor over a less… Contentious candidate. Then a bunch of Nazi shit happened, the “centrists” did what they always do and supported the seizure of power by fascists, and two years later Chancellor Hitler became Chancellor and President Hitler, all without winning a population election.
What she should have said is that Hitler was duly appointed. By a massive fucking loser and coward who probably jerked off thinking about how he helped Germany start and lose two World Wars.
