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We know that you obnoxious bitch. No go back into your cave, nobody wants you here. We would literally rather have the decrepit half-dead old man then Trump or you.

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This is your hourly reminder that the general election is nothing but a popularity contest and all the real voting power is with the electoral college members who can vote however they like even against their states general pop vote.

Its a puppet show for adults to make the politically minded feel important. Every single canidate who makes it to the ballots is bought and paid for. Vote however you like, or not at all. It doesn’t matter, and hasn’t mattered for decades.

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That isn’t really so, faithless electors have never been likely, the occasional faithless elector has had nearly no impact on elections, and a recent (2020 I believe) Supreme Court ruling made it clear that they are not allowed.

There are many issues with the general election. The electoral college is the original gerrymandering set up by our founding white supremacists, and the first-past-the-post, winner-take-all system makes sure that general elections only give the public minimal choice between two major party candidates. We desperately need to reform the system.

But voting in the general election remains necessary, to minimize harm, and voting in the primary election is vital, as the only place we get any real chance at a say. If we want to reform the system, dropping out if it is the surest way to fail. It’s exactly what the major parties want you to do.

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Utterly Hilarious, considering the current president is literally denying genocide.

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Hitler lost, and was later appointed to Chancellor unilaterally. So idk wtf she’s talking about.

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I think it’s close enough that you can get the point.

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No, it’s not. Being appointed and being elected are fundamentally different. One implies a Democratic process, the other does not.

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His party was democratically elected to gain enough power to get appointed. That’s the point.

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No, it’s worth noting that it was lesser evil voting in a sense that got Hitler appointed. The Social Democrats blocked with the Conservative Hindenburg, who won. Hindenburg then appointed Hitler Chancellor.

One wonders what would have happened if the Social Democrats had blocked with the Communists in a left slate, or at least gotten concessions from the Conservatives.

Edit to add link to 1932 election. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_German_presidential_election

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I’d need to have much more of a background in that era of Germany to start speculating like that. We might as well talk about Hitler being accepted into Art School or whatever that butterfly effect idea was.

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Are people seriously voting for trump? There is no reason other than authoritarianism. It’s kinda disturbing.

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Maybe not voting for Trump, but there are plenty who aren’t going to vote for Biden due to him gargling the balls of Israel.

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So they’re helping Trump win. No actual difference.

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A very nice black and white conclusion. Bravo.

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I’m a leftist and if I were going to vote for a Uniparty candidate, it’d probably be trump, on account of not literally denying genocide while actively preventing an end to said genocide. Seriously, if your logic for Biden over trump involves the word fascism, go ahead and explain exactly how America could get more fascist than we are right now. Nothing is more inherently fascist than committing genocide

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America has always supported fascism abroad; genocide, military coups to overthrow democratic governments, invading countries to conquer land and extract resources.

The thing is though there’s usually a clear separation between domestic and foreign policy. Bomb the children in the middle east, not the ones in Los Angeles. Not saying this is right, just that’s been the U.S’s take in general.

So Trump and domestic fascism is different in a tangible way, it introduces fascism locally, and I don’t think individuals or groups that are that openly fascistic will start supporting democracy or proletarian causes overseas.

Voting for domestic fascism as a way to curb fascistic foreign policy approaches probably won’t work out too well.

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You’re taking as given that trump would be more fascist domestically. But why? I mean, it doesn’t matter where you genocide someone. So Biden is already reaching the heights of fascism. The only thing more fascist than staging an unjust coup is committing genocide. I don’t think it’s a bold stance to say that I’d rather see a 2nd J6 than a 2nd Trail of Tears. America is going to come out just fine from the first J6, however the natives absolutely did not come out just fine from the trail of tears.

If the calculus is literally just “vote for the less fascist one”, I don’t see any way that that’s not trump. Biden has already green lit the end goal of fascism to begin with. Hopefully this is the year Americans stand up to our masters though and don’t let them lower the bar for president to “not literally helping commit a genocide… Yet.” Because I certainly do not have high hopes for the idea of trump actually standing up to our genocidal ally. He is just obviously more likely to do so than Biden.

America is already guilty of one genocide, we need to do everything we can to ensure it doesn’t become 2.

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Lmao, at the gop debate, they were literally talking about deporting people if they talk shit about Israel. Do you really think Trump is going to be the Savior of Palestine?

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I didn’t say I iked him, I said he isn’t already guilty of genocide, unlike Biden. Trump very well might also commit genocide. But we know for sure Biden would, because he is openly supporting it right now.

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The answer is yes. They’re sheep.

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