Apple has a memory problem and we’re all paying for it::Apple still sells expensive “Pro” computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

9 points

I doubt the average Apple customer even looks at specs. They just see the Apple badge and are sold.

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Worse even. They only look to screen size and how many lenses the phone has. That is enough for them to order the phone without even knowing what is better inside. They don’t care as their point is:" if apple made it then it must be faster and I don’t care or know how much faster".

I am from a family where everyone uses apple and they are all tech illiterate. I’m the only one with an android as I want my device to be customisable to me.

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I buy and use Macbook Pros for work (web dev), and I do look at specs. And yeah, 8GB is ridiculous and the upgrade prices are absurd. Amazingly good machine, though.

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You may not be the average Apple customer.

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I’m in a similar position but reversed. I’ve worked in various levels of support, almost always on Microsoft systems.

My home setup for automation, streaming media and containered apps is Linux. For personal everyday use I use a MacBook Air.

I’m in the Apple ecosystem because it just works, I don’t have to tinker like I do with Linux, or fix some random new bug or issue like on Windows.

I will say, in 5ish years when my Air starts to lag I’ll probably replace MacOS with Linux and rock that until I absolutely have to replace the hardware. Then hopefully the Framework type setups have grown and I’ll be able to go with something like that.

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in 5ish years when my Air starts to lag

Or next year when you have literally any sort of hardware issue that Apple refuses to fix, or allow anyone else to fix, and tells you “tough shit, buy a new one”.

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I’ve been having a bitch of a time with getting Plex and home assistant running properly on this old windows machine I picked up for $35 last week. Maybe I should create a Linux partition and give it a go.

the machine is 13 years old (Inspiron 3647) and only ha 6gb of ram and I keep running into memory capacity issues (I’ve also got a weird issue where, whenever I turn on my VPN I lose my internet connection). I’ve already spent another $30 putting an SSD in there and I’m not keen on spending another $20 on ram. I’m betting Ubuntu would run better than Win 10. What do you think?

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I would hope if your paying over $1,000 on something you do at least some cursory light research on what your buying. That goes for a Cellphone, a bed, drugs, or a macbook.

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Nah bro, we are all NOT. I would only touch a Apple product if it had tits.

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Unfortunately, Apple’s worst habits trickle down to other manufacturers who see what they manage to get away with and start taking notes.

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My next laptop is going to be a user upgradable one, maybe a framework. Apple can s my d.

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What apple choices have gone on to affect the PC market?

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My comment wasn’t about PCs specifically, but consumer devices as a whole. Soldered RAM is an easy one, but soldered SSD, USB-C-only laptops, lack of 3.5mm, internal batteries, use of glue in manufacturing, etc. In many of these cases you can probably find another manufacturer who did it first on a specific model, but what Dell or HTC or whoever did simply doesn’t influence the market the way Apple’s decisions do.

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This is what I worry about. I’d say that people should vote with their wallets, but that doesn’t do anything because every manufacturer follows along on stupid trends like this. Hopefully it dies at Apple this time and doesn’t spread.

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I’ll never understand brand loyalty, for the price of a Mac you can get a machine that’s 10x more powerful with the same software being available in Windows.

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Do Linux settings translate to osx… At all? I’m struggling to think of any I use across both. Maybe bash.rc?

Osx config is mostly running arcane commands to set registry settings.

I’ll never understand people who struggle with windows and like osx. They seem basically identical to me at this point.

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It’s called Mac OS and is actually a version of UNIX heavily modified by Apple. Linux is basically a copy of UNIX. Mac OS does not have a registry. Mac OS and Windows couldn’t be more different. OSX (the X stands for 10) was the versions of Mac OS that had 10 as the major version number that ended with Catalina.

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For me, windows is actually a much better user experience for working with MS office for traditional office tasks. I have Macs at home for working with music, pictures, and video. And Linux for my home lab stuff. They all have their niche.

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Except a lot of the software isn’t available. There are pros and cons to both. I’ve done windows, Linux and now I have a MacBook. It’s better than Linux and Windows in a lot of ways but also worse in a lot of ways.

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You can’t get a machine this powerful. Intel/amds laptop chips are blown out of the water by apple silicon. If you try to match all the specs you’ll struggle to get many offerings below the price apple charge.

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You can match the performance just fine, it’s the performance per watt that’s the issue… and AMD’s CPU division is not making it easy on Apple (ref AMD promises its new laptop chips will crush the Apple M2 - and it’s got receipts)

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If you get the CPU performance you can’t get the battery life performance. Apples the only manufacturer that manages this. Their price reflects the reduced amount of compromises they make. If you really need good performance across the board in a laptop, the value is their. If you need a browser and office suite on a budget, the value isnt their.

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Apple fans that would buy this vs Taylor swift fans. Who would win?

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Apple fan here, and I love what they’ve done with hardware the last few years. That said…. I have to agree. Base RAM config is silly low, and higher RAM and SSD configs are stupid expensive. It’s a money maker for sure, I wish it wasn’t so obviously a cash grab. I’d be ok with a bit more padding in the base hardware price if the ram wasn’t so expensive to upgrade.

In the old days this was a moot point because you buy base config and immediately swap for after market big sticks- I did that for decades, but these days with soldered RAM and storage…. Eh, it’s a bit of a kick in the balls.

I am stoked for my new M3 next week though, good thing work pays for it!

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Apple fan here

asking for contempt? ;-)

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-16 points

Jealousy is more like it. MacOS is amazing.

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5 points

MacOS is the worst part about Apple. Their hardware is amazing, but the software (third and first party) sucks.

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MacOS is extremely barebones. Almost two years ago I got a MacBook to work on a customer project. Until then I’ve only been on Linux and Windows 10. And boy was I in for a surprise. I kind of got used to it, but let me give you a few examples.

You want to tab between windows and not apps? Better pay for an app. You want to snap your windows left or right? An app. You want to control which app outputs to which audio device? You guessed it - an app. Clipboard? App. Configure mouse acceleration? An app (linear mouse).

I mean, the OS is polished and looks great. And if all you do is swoosh windows left and right in Starbucks, that’s all you need. But for anyone else it’s just sad how little it supports out of the box.

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3 points

For what? Or at what?

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Imagine if you had to buy it yourself. Really. Screw apple. I’m done with their blatant manipulation and control.

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