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Yeah, you anti-genocidal fucks.

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How dare you support not killing people en masse? Monsters

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Israel is right leaning

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Leaning?

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They’re fascist, not leaning.

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Not leaning; they’ve fallen over

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In the same way that tower in Pisa would be leaning if not for the cranes holding it up.

It’s a fascist apartheid ethnostate ffs!

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damn i look good

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Sure do king…I’ll leave your bathroom now.

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oh you’re leaving, then I’m leaving the bathroom closet as well

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I guess I’ll leave the bathroom vent then

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A hard look, you say?

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It is interesting how split opinions are here. Young democrats are more pro Palestine, older Dems are more pro Israel (although a little harsh). Republicans think Israel is doing the right thing.

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Exactly, and the few being balanced part is what drives us crazy. My wife is Jewish and has family in Israel. While we hate Hamas we dislike the orthodox Jews almost as much. Even with everything going on we care for the Palestinians that are mixed up with this and acknowledge both sides are truly bad in this. The enemy is Hamas not Palestine. Israel the nation isn’t the problem, it’s Netanyahu and company. None of that matters however as she has been spit on and treated like shit ever since this started just for her ethnicity.

There is so much information warfare going on and I am sure of it. As soon as that first hospital blew up, media immediately blamed the IDF before any evidence was out. Then all evidence pointed to Hamas being responsible and it barely got covered. Hamas is using hospitals as hiding spots at the very least. Meanwhile they do their best to heard and trap civilians into the crossfire while the IDF steamrolls. The whole situation is just fucked.

It is just so aggravating how everyone treats this as a black and white struggle like Ukraine when it is anything but. It’s two shitheads fighting; with Israel at least having dissenters while Palestine is run like a dictatorship. That’s the only simple part.

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It is black and white, many Israelis don’t approve of IDF committing genocide and murdering thousands of civilians. But hey, Hamas did some stuff…

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Young democrats are more pro-dont-commit-war-crimes whatever the history, older dems are disensitized by war-crimes and obsessed with anti-terrorism.

Republicans love the war machine and think that genocide/wiping out the opposing side is the only way to resolve anything.

Biden is trying to put on his best dem face while attempting to also maintain control over nuclear proliferation in the middle east. There’s only 1 party when it comes to global control, and this exposed it clearly. Democratic or Republican presidents, they all answer to the Generals in the end.

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Why don’t Hamas operate out of military bases?

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For example by not creating a humanitarian catastrophe for the civilian population of Gaza. By not actively restricting humanitarian aid, food, electricity, water. By setting up field hospitals and making sure that everyone who needs a medical treatment can receive one. By actively trying to limit the civilian casualties and adhering to international laws of war.

Or is this too much to ask from a state that pretends to be democratic and lawful?

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You really need to understand that there is a waaay bigger political spectrum than “Democrats” and “Republicans”. Especially when it comes to foreign policy.

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Random condescension on Lemmy, what else is new.

I was basing my statement on an NPR poll and those were the categories that they used.

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Take off your offended pants and reread what they wrote. If that’s condescension then you’re too sensitive for the internet and should probably log off.

I am being condescending. They were not.

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You are dn the internet and not everyone here is from the US.

The US political system is not the center of the political world.

In fact, I think that the Democrat Republican dichotomy is one reason why people in the west are so badly informed when it comes to politics.

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Not American, but there is a shift lately that makes me feel a little hopeful. Like for the first time my parents and in-laws are starting to see how not all criticism of Israel has to be antisemitic.

Yes that does mean we’re having to be more vigilant for actual antisemitism (especially online), but it’s still progress of a sort.

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