22 points

Fines aren’t near enough at this point, we need public executions at a minimum to put a dent in this problem.

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2 points

I like the shame bell from game of thrones.

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Yes, I suppose we could beat telemarketers to death with that bell just as well as with anything else.

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I guess you never saw the shame walk. Oh well.

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10 points

No killing them is too extreme. Put them in a room with 1,000 different types of ringing telephones for a week.

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The way I see it, an alleged murderer is entitled to a trial by an impartial jury of one’s peers. However, It would be improper for victims of the deceased to serve on the jury trying the murder case.

When the deceased has continuously harassed everyone with a phone for the past 20+ years, it is impossible to assemble an impartial jury. Impossible to assemble a jury means it is also impossible to convict.

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7 points

Good! Large fines create a meaningful deterrent for bad behavior.

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Cox was banned from telemarketing in a 2013 settlement with the FTC, which accused him of sending “illegal robocalls offering credit card interest rate reduction programs, extended automobile warranties, and home security systems.” At the time, the FTC said that Cox was issued “a $1.1 million civil penalty that will be suspended due to his inability to pay.”

In 2017, the FTC obtained a similar telemarketing ban on Jones. He was also fined $2.7 million, but, as with Cox, the fine was “suspended based on his inability to pay.”

No fine is going to be paid this time either I imagine.

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I’m not normally a proponent of prison for debtors, but in the case of these motherfuckers I’d be happy if they threw away the key.

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suspended based on his inability to pay

If only he had some way to make money fast.

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Maybe it’ll help as long as the fine is some % of their net income. Sweden does this, speeding tickets are a % of your income instead of a fixed fine, so someone with $10MM will still feel the burn.

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27 points

Sure deterred them from doing it again after the first time… oh wait.

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9 points

We’ve had one fine yes, but what about second fine?

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This was the second fine for at least one of these guys.

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Depends on if they make so much money that 300M is just cost of doing business. There needs to be prison time for those involved.

Also $300M is the public fine number. Usually the actual fine is less than what is made public.

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can we do something about homelessness, drug addiction/rehabilitation, and income support for families first? Would love 300mil for that

Idgaf about the robocallers compared to our real social issues. This is miniscule

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Scam callers and all those issues you listed are probably a statistic. These assholes scam seniors out of millions (probably billions worldwide) if someone loses their money, and can’t afford their mortgage or rent, they are much likely to end up on the street.

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10 points

Are you against fines or against how they’re being allocated?

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whoops misread the “fine” part

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49 points

It’s kind of amazing how we’d been answering phones when they rang for a century, until a handful of greedy wankers like these guys and the offshore “calling from Windows” folks started doing their thing a few years ago. Now only the elderly and folks required to answer for work even contemplate picking a call up.

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15 points

I don’t answer my work phone anymore. Our company uses teams. So if it’s not a teams call, you can’t make me answer the phone.

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I haven’t had a legitimate phone call on my work line in the last 8 years. Anyone who truly needs to talk to me has my cell number and several other ways to contact me.

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I got so many spam calls I considered changing the number I’ve had for over 2 decades. So obnoxious.

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It’s not your number. It’s all the numbers.

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I wouldn’t recommend that. I did it once for the same reason and got just as many spam calls plus debt collectors trying to reach the person who had the number before me.

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Yeah I couldn’t bring myself to anyway, I’ve got an “interesting” number (think like 420-6969 but not that) that I wouldn’t want to give up…as if anyone cares about numbers anymore. But it was cool in high school!

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1 point

Is it Duns and Bradstreet?

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