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This is the best summary I could come up with:


“An international network of companies violated federal statutes and the Commission’s regulations when they executed a scheme to make more than five billion robocalls to more than 500 million phone numbers during a three-month span in 2021, including violating federal spoofing laws by using more than one million different caller ID numbers in an attempt to disguise the true origin of the robocalls and trick victims into answering the phone,” the FCC said.

“Since at least 2018, this enterprise operated a complex scheme designed to facilitate the sale of vehicle service contracts under the false and misleading claim of selling auto warranties,” the FCC said.

“Two of the central players of the operation, Roy M. Cox and Aaron Michael Jones, were under lifetime bans against making telemarketing calls following lawsuits by the Federal Trade Commission and State of Texas.”

The FCC said it took action to block the robocalling scheme last year by directing "all US-based voice service providers to cease carrying traffic associated with certain members of the enterprise.

The FCC coordinated last year’s action with the Ohio attorney general’s office, which filed a lawsuit against Jones, Cox, and others involved in the alleged robocalling scheme.

Cox was banned from telemarketing in a 2013 settlement with the FTC, which accused him of sending “illegal robocalls offering credit card interest rate reduction programs, extended automobile warranties, and home security systems.”


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11 points

Can someone make a TL;DR bot the TL;DR bot?

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8 points

TLDR: the perpetrators were trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty.

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2 points

No joke, they actually were.

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BEEP BOOP. Omega-TLDR bot activated.

Two trash humans were asked nicely to not do it again, and did it again. don’t worry though the prison cells they should have been locked away in are filled with minor drug charges by minorities or something else equally stupid.

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7 points

Good! Large fines create a meaningful deterrent for bad behavior.

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27 points

Sure deterred them from doing it again after the first time… oh wait.

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9 points

We’ve had one fine yes, but what about second fine?

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2 points

This was the second fine for at least one of these guys.

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Cox was banned from telemarketing in a 2013 settlement with the FTC, which accused him of sending “illegal robocalls offering credit card interest rate reduction programs, extended automobile warranties, and home security systems.” At the time, the FTC said that Cox was issued “a $1.1 million civil penalty that will be suspended due to his inability to pay.”

In 2017, the FTC obtained a similar telemarketing ban on Jones. He was also fined $2.7 million, but, as with Cox, the fine was “suspended based on his inability to pay.”

No fine is going to be paid this time either I imagine.

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11 points

I’m not normally a proponent of prison for debtors, but in the case of these motherfuckers I’d be happy if they threw away the key.

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4 points

suspended based on his inability to pay

If only he had some way to make money fast.

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Maybe it’ll help as long as the fine is some % of their net income. Sweden does this, speeding tickets are a % of your income instead of a fixed fine, so someone with $10MM will still feel the burn.

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Depends on if they make so much money that 300M is just cost of doing business. There needs to be prison time for those involved.

Also $300M is the public fine number. Usually the actual fine is less than what is made public.

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@fne8w2ah “Two of the central players of the operation, Roy M. Cox and Aaron Michael Jones, were under lifetime bans against making telemarketing calls following lawsuits by the Federal Trade Commission and State of Texas.”

WHY AREN’T THEY IN JAIL

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Anyone got a number?

I have some very important information for them regarding expiration of their vehicle warranties.

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8 points

That would be a good penalty for them. Their phone number(s) must always be public so anyone can call them whenever they want.

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How much money were they making off telemarketing that they were fucking banned for life from doing it and they still did it?

Also:

At the time, the FTC said that Cox was issued "a $1.1 million civil penalty that will be suspended due to his inability to pay.

Oh ok, so this fine for more money will certainly mean something…

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28 points

I feel like we have places to put people who ruin society. Was it mail, rail, shale? I dunno, set them free and bring me a coffee, bailiff.

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15 points

I feel like at this point we just go full Spanish Inquisition and burn these motherfuckers at the stake.

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16 points

Political theatre to make it seem like they’re doing something about the issue. When in reality, nothing changes.

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WHY ARE THEY STILL BREATHING?

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13 points

How many of you have received these calls? I got a ton of them along with my husband and siblings.

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12 points

Those were partly the reason I stopped answering unknown numbers.

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28 points

Spam callers have basically ruined telephone as a medium. For many, a phone call is more likely to be fake and spam than it is to be legitimate. And even if the call claims to come from a source you might trust, good odds it’s spoofed and thus cannot in fact be trusted.

A shame on telecoms for not being willing to tackle the problem.

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13 points

Both email and the telephone have been ruined by spam for me. The inbox has become an unwieldy, inefficient mess.

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11 points

Job hunting is the worst. I have to answer every single call for a while knowing full well it’s probably a telemarketer but not having any other choice.

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2 points

Same, the only time I answer my phone is when I want to mess with the spammers.

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3 points

I’ve started forwarding the calls to Google voice or if i accidentally pick the call, i use bixby’s auto answer.

Either eay the call drops in a hot second.

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22 points

Fines aren’t near enough at this point, we need public executions at a minimum to put a dent in this problem.

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2 points

I like the shame bell from game of thrones.

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3 points

Yes, I suppose we could beat telemarketers to death with that bell just as well as with anything else.

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1 point

I guess you never saw the shame walk. Oh well.

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4 points

The way I see it, an alleged murderer is entitled to a trial by an impartial jury of one’s peers. However, It would be improper for victims of the deceased to serve on the jury trying the murder case.

When the deceased has continuously harassed everyone with a phone for the past 20+ years, it is impossible to assemble an impartial jury. Impossible to assemble a jury means it is also impossible to convict.

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No killing them is too extreme. Put them in a room with 1,000 different types of ringing telephones for a week.

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