291 points

Can we boycot the companies that do this already. I get the AC IP is nice, I’ve certainly enjoyed my fair share of their games.

But the ad industry is completely getting derailed. What’s next ? Watch a 15s promo video every time you want to open te fridge? Watch a promo video before you can open the door?

Have your walls randomly show you ads?

Stop buying their shit. Regardless of how decent the game is. Punish them for the predatory practices. Demand refunds.

But no. People will likely be outraged, and then next game angry and then the next game they’ll suck it all up and complain about the good all days.

#remindmein5years

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135 points

I always thought the cyberpunk genre was a warning, not a blueprint.

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35 points

Don’t Create the Torment Nexus etc etc

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Wow! The torment nexus is so cool! I wanna live in the torment nexus! *creates torment nexus*

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3 points

I can’t get into the genre, it’s too real to be fun

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64 points

Stop buying their shit.

Way ahead of you.

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Yeah, unfortunately, it is hard for me to hurt their bottom line because I checked out of the series after Origins.

That said, I’ve never sought a refund on a digital copy of a game, but I wouldn’t hesitate if I paid full price for a game only to find out there were in game ads

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I got the package deal with all of them over the summer and loved origins 😅 been working my way through them all to get ready for the new one. I was thinking I’d go this route of getting it and returning if I saw ads, but based on comments about the company having rape apologists I might need to do some more research before even bothering to take that risk

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3 points

Same. I checked out of the series back when they started enforcing U-Play use. I can’t understand why anyone would buy any of their games. Ubisoft went mask off a long time ago.

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Companies should focus on making in-game advertising appear ‘diegetic’ as opposed to the low hanging fruit of inserting it like a sore thumb.

Had Ubisoft scattered a number of graffiti or town criers in Odyssey’s cities talking about visiting a foreign land for less money the next few days only, where the art direction looked and felt perfectly at home in the world itself and interacting with the hooks alerted users to the promotion details, this would have been way less disgusting to players.

You didn’t have players revolting when Cyberpunk’s 2.0 update suddenly had characters talking about Dogtown which then hooked into trying to upsell the DLC. It fit the world and was something that could be ignored or engaged with as desired.

GTA: Online’s phone calls hooking into paid or new content are another example of doing it better (though their frequency is tuned really poorly).

The problem is most publishers don’t want to spend the extra time and money to fit ads into the worlds players are in. Which is dumb, as testing a really terrible UX that players will revolt on and press will cover negatively is going to shoot in the foot an initiative that would have gone much smoother with a bit of elbow grease and respect for the players.

Especially with the increase in in-game commerce I expect that we will see a spike in in-game advertising over the next few years, and with advances in generative AI that might even end up being tailored to the in game world as well much more often.

But the reactivity of the audience here means that the publishers who do a good job on limiting the degree to which moving in that direction abuses the playerbase are going to end up much better off than the ones that think dumb shit like a popup ad in the game UI during play is a good idea.

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27 points

Drink verification can to proceed.

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21 points

There’s a blackmirror episode that touches on ads invading our lives like this

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2 points

Black Mirror episodes coming true or already being true is hedging into “Simpsons did it!” Territory

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17 points

I’m pretty certain that I read a comment like this back in 2010 to 2012 on Reddit. Hell it may have been on Slashdot or Digg back in 2008.

As you’ve said, the only way to stop this is for everyone to stop feeding the beast. The problem is that F2P works now in 2023 as a business model, and clearly worked back in 2010 as DDO, and SW:TOR are still chugging along.

I don’t think it is feasible to end these predatory practices unless one can manage to get every single government in the world to outlaw them. Good luck on that.

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Well, for one I think we’ve played the sum total of what Assassin’s Creed has to offer, at this point. I haven’t seen Ubisoft bring anything much new or compelling to the table since… AC3? I think? I’ve been doing just fine without it for all these years.

IIRC there were some racing games that actually did show you real ads on billboards and pit walls and so forth, which were updated over the internet. Need For Speed: Carbon did this, I think. I’m certain there are already other similar examples, and you’ll probably find them in something published by EA.

I’m all for giving the finger to the megacorporate publishers who do this, though. I have got so many fuckin’ indie games in my Steam library still, many of which I haven’t played much or at all, a large portion of which are great, and all of which will give me something to do other than put up with what the predatory behavior du jour is (advertisements, subscriptions, lootboxes, battle passes, microtransactions, or whatever the fuck else).

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Battlefield games also had billboards. Granted they were torn up, but they were advertisements. Tbh I’m okay with ads if they fit into the game.

Have a game with a TV? I’m okay with ads getting inserted into the fake-TV programming so long as they’re in the style of the game.

Have a game with billboards? Okay, but again, it needs to be in the style of the game.

I’m willing to forgive some level of advertising in games, especially if they’re from smaller studios, they just need to be non-intrusive and fit the style of the game. I’m more forgiving if you’ve put the work and effort into making the ad look and feel like it’s part of the world. An example is if GTA VI had radio ads that were self-depricating and/or self-parodies of the real-world companies advertising in-game.

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There is no greater ad on the planet like the pißwasser commercial in gta4.

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2 points

There is no greater ad on the planet like the pißwasser commercial in gta4.

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1 point

How about the example of Transformers(2007) where GM very gently shoehorned their product into nearly every character.

This movie killed the movie theater for me, I felt like I paid to watch a commercial

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2 points

The NHL games used to show ads on the boards too. Assuming they still do.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Didn’t you guys have ads in the 20th century?

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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6 points

Haven’t bought an AC since the American revolution one, last thing I bought from them was watchdogs for $5 and it was dogshit so reinforced my no Ubishit rule

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2 points

I’ve been boycotting ubisoft, EA, blizzard, and the like for years. 🤷‍♂️

(I mean, technically I’ve been avoiding denuvo malware, microtransactions, always online DRM bullshit, and the like, plus bad and / or uninteresting games… but that’s effectively equivalent to boycotting those assholes.)

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201 points

I have a hard unbreakable rule:

Free, you can serve me ads, I’ll try to avoid them but ok. But the minute I pay for something and you try to give me ads on top, we’re gonna have a problem.

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47 points

Newspapers. You paid for it, and it still got ads.

I know, digital and printed ads are different.

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56 points

Cable TV, same thing. This is just old media execs trying to “bring back the magic” or new media execs thinking that old media techniques will work

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13 points

Apparently when cable first came to be, there were no ads

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25 points

Newspapers. You paid for it, and it still got ads.

I have never done this and I doubt I ever will.

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6 points

I’m in my 40s. The last time I can remember buying a newspaper, was when I did it for my parents as a kid 🤷

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4 points

How old are you?

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4 points

I mean sure, but it’s also been literally a decade since I bought a newspaper.

I bought it for the coupons.

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7 points

This is why Amazon Prime was an instant cancel.

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6 points

If you still want to watch amazon video content, you can stream pretty much anything for free here: https://fmoviesz.to/

Just make sure you have Adnauseam or uBlock Origin installed.

I just started watching the 2nd season of Invincible :)

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1 point

look up cloudstream and thank me later

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4 points

That’s cable TV in a nutshell. Pay to watch ads.

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I don’t mind a little ad in the menu, about stuff directly related to game I’m playing. Those little “Hey we released a new content dlc to this exact game” infos can actually be informative. What I really can’t stand is stuff breaking the immersion of the game. I’m not even mad about product placements, when they fit the theme and are sparsely used.

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9 points

Yeah, product placements like for sports games are fine… I expect to see ads in a park, arena, or stadium.

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it even adds to the authenticity in those games, perfect example of it done right. the problem is advertisers thinking their template applies to every medium without exception

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22 points

Baldur’s Gate 3 was probably the best game of this year (?), but it has an advert for the DLC as soon as you launch it

However, it’s also probably one of the least-bad “triple A” games of this year when it comes to overall monetisation, that singular DLC of cosmetics and the soundtrack being the only one available

Unfortunately, I think this one is a losing battle

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Advertising dlc is ok in my opinion, it’s for the product you’re using and not everyone checks for new dlc

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I was going to ask where the ad was, but I forgot that I turned off the launcher specifically because of that. I have no idea about PS but you can add the following on PC to skip the lau8

--skip-launcher
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Yeah, you absolutely can, but knowing to do that means that the advert has already delivered its message to you.

Futzing around with the launcher settings seems like more work than just clicking “no” on an advert that pops up.

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Sony didn’t have both versions readily available in the Playstation Store. While I did eventually purchase the DLC (which is the deluxe version, not a typical DLC), I’ll be damned that Sony didn’t make it easy to find the OG version in the store.

And I put that on Sony, not the game publisher. Regardless, BG3 has been a breath of fresh air to gaming this year. About time a studio put out a full game without divvying it up into expansions and DLCs.

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I agree that BG3 is a great diversion from the usual. My point is kind of that if you’re a purist about this, you’re missing out on it, even though on the whole it bucks the trend.

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Baldur’s Gate 3 has no dlc at all. It has no dlc even announced, let alone available for purchase. Stop making shit up lol. Their launcher has info about the different games they’ve made and their prices, but when you actually launch the game it has NO ad of any sort. You could only barely call the info in their launcher an ad in the first place.

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kind of awkward that this both:

it’s absolutely coconuts that you’re currently attempting to die on the hill of a giant “buy now” button not being an advert

also, you do realise that the launcher is an advert? that’s its whole reason to exist. your take is essentially “you’re dumb because after you’ve clicked through the adverts, there aren’t any adverts”

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I mean I guess Divinity never had ads unless you consider the launcher an advert for their other titles, given that that’s basically what it’s there to do?

If you don’t consider anything in launchers to be adverts then I guess you can play BG3, because that’s where the advert for the DLC lives?

I really feel like if Larian had only given you the soundtrack and not the cosmetics, and just not called it DLC, that people really wouldn’t be so up in arms about it.

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93 points

Ah, my hard line stance of “never buy anything ubisoft” is still working out for me.

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Ubisoft, epic, ea, Blizzard/Activision…

I wont say Bethesda because I’m hoping for another Doom or Quake.

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24 points

_EA is the fucking devil. They bought my favorite game, Ultima Online, and ruined it. _

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5 points

That’s tragic and I feel your pain.

I’m glad that game had such a community surge of custom shards to keep it going, but it sure fractured the community. :(

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3 points

get in line. ubisoft is the same by the way. they own the rights to my favorite IPs: prince of persia and flashback and all they’re doing is releasing shovelware.

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The way that Bethesda has handled Doom has been nothing short of excellent. Hopefully they continue to support Id however they need it to keep on making great games.

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7 points

Generally, yeah. The way they worked with Mick Gordon last game was awful though.

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6 points

Well Doom 2016 at least. Doom Eternal fucked over Mick Gordon and DLCfyied the game. The cracks are forming.

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2 points

Can’t complain about the quake update.

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5 points

What’s the problem with Epic Games, besides No Tux no Bux and anti cheat rootkits?

I mean those suck, but it has to be more than that right?

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14 points

Delisting and shutting down the Unreal and Unreal Tournament games. General lootbox bs.

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7 points

Owned in part by Tencent

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3 points

They haven’t made a decent game in 15 years so…there’s that.

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7 points

I would a very happy person if most things in this World that reliably make one feel as “I’m doing the right thing” and frequently make one “Give oneself a pat on the back” required so little expense, time and effort as “never buy anything from Ubisoft”.

It’s like winning the “well done dude” lotery once every couple of months without spending a cent.

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Ah, my hardline stance of “don’t buy profitable products you can get for free” is still working out for me.

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89 points

Always testing the line… This wasn’t a mistake. They know you’ll be upset, they are testing HOW upset and then they’ll make their decision.

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If you’re “upset” but buy another Ubisoft game anyway, then you weren’t that upset --> Ubisoft will keep doing it.

(you as in generic you)

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Ubisoft doesn’t give a shit. Never did. They are the ones who added booster packs after certain time in game so you can progress at a normal pace instead if you pay them extra. Am actually surprised someone reacted this time since usually they are fiendishly defended by dedicated fans.

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They don’t give a shit but if everyone rejects their bulshit, like that NFT nonsense, they will back off (and try again later)

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True. And it usually works or at least to a degree, otherwise they wouldn’t keep doing it.

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