I’m helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because “Linux can’t play games” despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can’t even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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I keep a virtual machine of 10. I don’t enjoy using it though.

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I think that’s what I will eventually do. Right now it’s still dual boot.

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Apparently there’s a way to run a vm from an actual disk partition, as long as you can be sure only the vm has access to the partition(s). I haven’t tried it myself yet though.

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I was pretty worried I was gonna bork my drives so I never went for the full pass through. Sounds like unnecessary risk to me.

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It works pretty well. I did it with virtualbox.

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Works great on VirtualBox - essentially, create a ‘raw VMDK’, and set up a virtual machine with that. Back when I thought that Windows was still worth dual-booting, I used to have it installed ‘for real’, but also installed so that I could boot it via VB. I always used to run Windows Updates when it was started in VB - that prevented the updates from making any BIOS changes and fucking up my GRUB configuration. It was also handy for file sharing and such like. Had far fewer problems with Windows in general that way, too.

Eventually, I realised that gaming on Linux is just fine, and the work-arounds were less effort than stopping Windows from shitting the bed in a dual-boot configuration. That was years ago; Linux gaming has come on a long way since then, too.

VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename /path/to/file.vmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda

https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/admin/adv-storage-config.html

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Dual boot is like the hardest way because you have to stop using one to start the other. Virtual machine is the way to go IMO. Though I don’t have a Windows VM atm…

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ROFL windows is the easiest thing ever to install. Same with steam.

Sounds like either you’re terrible with computers or you have some serious hardware issues.

Blaming it solely on windows is a joke.

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People have trouble installing Windows? You enter a license key and click next a couple times.

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You missed the part where you either sign in with your Microsoft account or cut your Internet, remove the webcam, fake your own death, and do the secret tap code in the bios to just have the OS without letting Microsoft into your butthole.

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Windows 11 doesn’t force you do any of that. Just skip the sign in. Your points were valid in 8/10 era but no more.

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Not true. 11 very much still forces you to use an MS account.

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That’s not accurate. The new versions of Windows 11 make you restart the OOBE with a flag to disable the MS login requirement. His points also weren’t valid during the 8/10 era, because back then you could just click offline experience at the bottom left. You didn’t even need to disable WiFi, just don’t connect.

Edit: Seems Pro lets you install without an account, home does not. Most of the laptops I’ve worked on come with home.

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It depends on the version, but yes, it does. It’s especially a problem on prebuilt machines and laptops. It is incredibly annoying to work with in a corporate environment. Our helpdesk tech comes to me with issues related to this probably three times a week. I gave up with work arounds and we just have a throwaway Microsoft account now.

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I just installed 11 recently. There isn’t a skip button anymore. I had to enter fake sign in details for it to give me the “offline” option.

So it seems like their point may still stand.

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Not true on Windows 11 home that ships with new hardware. You need to disable all network connections and run some terminal commands to set up a local account. It is not convenient at all. Granted you can easily add a local account, after you have set it up with a Microsoft account, but that sort of defeats the purpose.

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I just use the Konami code and it bypasses so that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Try doing it on a b650 motherboard that’s so new the windows installer doesn’t even have the correct ahci drivers

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Gigabyte apparently. They have drivers on their website. Windows 11 just wanted to be extremely picky about the storage device I used. There was probably a cd with drivers in the motherboard box but who tf has a cd drive these days? Just formatting ntfs on any flash drive is apparently not good enough. Also, no matter which version of the drivers I used, unchecking “hide incompatible drivers” was the only way to make anything ever show up. I’m 100% sure I was using the correct ones for the exact motherboard model and revision number.

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He said it has windows drivers, but windows don’t have its drivers in its installer

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I bought a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and an Asrock X670E, I was upgrading and just transferred my Windows install but still… No issues.

I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

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I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

I think so too and no offense meant to OP as well.

I am an early adopter of all things tech and so I had a Gigabyte Xtreme X670E mobo on pretty much day 1 to go with a 7950X. Everything worked fine on both Windows 11 and Linux despite being a pimped-up mobo and brand new CPU. At this much later date, OP’s B650 mobo should be working without a hitch, especially with Windows (and almost certainly with Linux as well).

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Same on many linux distros but without having to enter a license key

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Nah you have to spend at least an hour researching how to not create an account (spoiler: ther is no option, you just have to not connect it to the internet)

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It’s a joke post. Which makes it extra funny, and quite sad, how many of the comment seem to think it’s serious and are unironically chiming in with complaints.

OPs username is “Peter Poopshit”, I wouldn’t take anything they post seriously.

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Several people thinking this post is too stupid to possibly be real because they think linux users are smart says everything you need to know about this community.

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I saw SatansMaggotyShitFart or something like that making normal conversation yesterday.

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Sorry, could you repeat that? Slower, if possible

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They’re wrong, of course.

You don’t have to enter a license key.

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People have trouble installing Windows? You enter a license key and click next a couple times.

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Bruh if you can’t figure out Windows then just give up.

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