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Yeah, pigs don’t like to be corrected. Or made to look like they don’t know what they’re doing.

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Fun fact. Cops on average have lower IQ and often fail literacy tests. Furthermore it appears that critical thinking is discouraged in the job, with candidates being selected who lack critical thinking abilities over those that have them.

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32 points

Certain departments specifically have IQ tests, in order to ensure you aren’t smart enough to easily get a better job elsewhere.

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4 points

This internet myth has got to die. ONE case in ONE department, a quarter century ago, does not mean it’s a practice.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-connecticut-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html

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24 points

I think it’s more nefarious than that. Many departments want a good 'ol boys club where they’re the ultimate authority and they want their officers to fall in line rather than question department actions.

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3 points

It sounds like this could be applied to the military too

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The military doesn’t actively exclude smarter people. However they 100% prey on people who are less educated

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51 points

We need to have a chat about your definition of “fun”.

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268 points

And they absolutely hate ever doing anything about bicycle theft in particular.

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40 points

I have heard that very often. I wonder if bikes are harder to track down than other property for some reason.

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125 points

They only care about property loss when it involves rich people.

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69 points

Given the number of times I’ve seen cops on police forums and r/protectandserve use terms like “bikefags”, I think it’s just the typical cop disgust of anything they perceive to be weak or effeminate.

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37 points

smaller, therefore easier to hide. Not registered with a central authority like, for example, cars.

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Anything that’s not serialized and recorded is basically impossible to find. If you have serial numbers then they can inform local pawn shops, but even then the shops probably aren’t checking serials for anything under $500.

And if the thief just sells it on craigslist then no one is checking serials.

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26 points

I’m pretty sure any petty theft is very hard to track down. Not just bikes, if someone broke into your house and stole some minor things it’s almost certainly not gonna get found. Bikes are the same, it’s very easy to resell them and repaint, and nobory registers bikes.

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In Poland we have a saying about bike theft, that they won’t even consider looking for it unless you are the commendant’s son.

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Because even if they look for it and find it, whoever is riding just says it theirs and there is literally nothing the police can do unless it was caught on video or there is a meaningful identifying feature like a serial number or something else specific and unique.

Seeing a sketchy guy with a black and red bike with the same bike rack you had isn’t enough to prove anything.

If an officer approached me riding my bike around and asked me to prove it’s mine, I couldn’t either despite not being a thief.

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33 points

I reported my bike stolen in college and I got a call the next day that they had found it parked in front of a nearby church.

It was stolen on a Sunday. I guess someone didn’t want to be late to service.

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4 points

God made them do it!

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9 points

Probably added the theft to the sins they were confessing that day as well.

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19 points

What you’re entering the third act of your love story and you have to get to the church in time to break up the wedding and declare your love, what’s a little bike theft? The universe will take care of it.

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It probably depends a lot on where you live. My wife’s bike got stolen and she was woken up by police coming to check on it (one of the maintenance guys at our apartment noticed a man at 7-Eleven riding it and recognized it; came back running to check if it’s indeed missing and called the police). We fully expected the police would do nothing about it (it was the cheapest Walmart bike), but an hour later they called that they found the bike and have the culprit in custody. It did help that the bike was a girly mint green with a wicker basket, so they instantly recognized it when they saw it.

Then again, in San Francisco, when my wife got her car window smashed and wallet stolen (she was late for class and dropped her wallet under the car seat, didn’t stop to take it; but it wasn’t the wallet that caught the thieves’ attention, it was the breast pump bag that looked like a laptop bag; they threw it on the floor when they saw what it was), we never heard anything back from the police.

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And they absolutely hate ever doing anything about bicycle theft in particular.

FTFY

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67 points

just tell them there is a black man at the moment of theft, they will get on it lickety split!

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  • Binary search: O(log(n))
  • Sequential search: O(n)
  • Linear search: O(n)
  • Police ethnicity database search: O(0)
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No need to search when you already have someone you wanna pin it on.

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4 points

Sad meme very relevant

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242 points

This argument did not go well

You can’t convince people to do their job with logic when they just don’t want to do their job. After minorities, the thing cops hate most is doing their job.

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12 points

They might not know when in the footage it happened

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I assume he doesn’t have access to it. He just knows there’s a camera pointing at the place where his bike was stolen, and that the police have access to the footage.

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when they just don’t want to do their job.

It might also be a matter of getting a directive from their management not the care, because there’s not enough cops to go around for the ‘important’ stuff.

They don’t want to waste their limited time for simple property theft, which is ironic considering that’s what police are supposed to be doing (stopping theft).

The answer would be then to hire more police, but unfortunately that would mean higher taxes for the citizenry, and that seems to be a hard glass ceiling.

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25 points

Wrong

The police exists to protect the status quo. Try overthrowing any immoral law or legally but immoral behavior and you’ll see how efficiently they move about.

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Before handing out life advice maybe try it IRL and see how it goes. It’s kinda fun.

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2 points

More police wouldn’t cost more money if they stopped buying tanks.

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9 points

No, the police just don’t want to do any work. In my hometown you can’t get the police to do shit unless you are a black man who “fits the description” or “smells like weee” then they will gladly try to make your death look as much your fault as possible.

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98 points

WRONG! After minorities, it’s poor people. Then doing their job. :P

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Come on, don’t disparage our hard-working Boys in blue. Without police who’s going to come to your house to take notes about the crime that you have sufficient evidence to prove, and even have a likely suspect for, and then never follow up?

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30 points

that dawn of humanity is only going to work if the rewind/fast forward is instantaneous.

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Also, if I rewind to the Neolithic and I see a bunch of cavemen, sabertooth tigers and a Schwinn chained to a bike rack, I’m not going to just fast forward from there. I have other questions.

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27 points

I mean… You’re not gonna outrun that sabertooth on foot.

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I get the sentiment, but you want them to waste public resources doing it on all these different clunky uis and software? Sometimes these take minutes to load new information to parse.

Maybe waste your time pinpointing it instead of expecting public resources to do what you could do for them?

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Yeah, every time I have ever had to hand over footage to the police for thefts at our family store, I clip and organizr that shit. I also include a paper identifying each file, the timestamps and what happened during them, any details I identified that they can corroborate (physical description, identifiable clothing/tattoos, make and model of vehicle, license plate number, etc.). I often end up putting in 1-2 hours of work on it watching, editing and transferring footage.

If you want traction and results from the police, you need to make it as easy as possible for them by doing the heavy lifting yourself. The cynical view is that thats because they just don’t care, but also, in fairness, your case is one of dozens of cases on their desk and the cases never stop coming. This is your priority, so put in the effort instead of expecting others do so. That being said, that is much easier when you have direct access to the cctv footage. I’m guessing this student didnt.

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20 points

So I should do their job for them?

Why the fuck are we paying them then?

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23 points

Oh shit, a few minutes to do their job. The fucking horror, wouldn’t want to cut into their being an utter fucking bastard time, where they’re probably harassing a minority or beating their wife.

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It’s public money, why waste it when you could provide it for them.

But argue fallacious points.

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8 points

Because it is their job to do it.

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Okay so genius, are the cops going to provide the footage for the person to watch themselves to narrow down the time?

How the fuck do you expect this person to work it out if the ones with access to the evidence to do so refuse to do so?

And further fucking more, how is doing their job, wasting public money? There’s a lot of money wasted on police, investigating a robbery for a real person is not one of them.

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7 points

Chain of custody

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Who is “you” in this sentence? I mean, I could probably write security camera software, but I don’t, and have no plans to. I imagine most of the people here are the same.

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So when there is a pothole in front of your driveway, you’re going out and filling it in yourself, right? Because why waste the city’s valuable time when you could do it yourself?

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That’s an interesting way to say that they shouldn’t get paid if they’re not doing their jobs. 

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I mean… their job supposedly is to protect and serve the citiens so yeah… I’d expect them to use their tools to do their job.

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It’s your software/hardware and you know how to operate it. Would take you a fraction of the time as well.

Maybe public cameras sure, but private that’s not their tool by any stretch of the imagination.

And most public cameras don’t record for privacy reasons.

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13 points

What? It was a campus security camera, not their hardware

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In what world do random citizens own and operate the security cameras of, well, anything? As opposed to the people that work there, or I dont know the police? Whose job is allegedly to solve crimes?

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It’s your software/hardware

Where do you read that in the original post?

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on all these different clunky uis and software

As someone who has used security cam software before. I swear they are designed to be as unhelpful, slow, and convoluted as possible.

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