44 points

Street trees aren’t car-supremacist enough.

Let me explain what I mean by that: when a driver fucks up and his car careens off the street and hits a tree, the tree stops the car very abruptly. That’s great for, say, an innocent pedestrian who was saved by hiding behind the tree, but can apply rather serious consequences to the negligent driver. Car-brained traffic engineers see it as their mission to protect drivers from any and all consequences, so they insist on ripping out all the trees to create a gigantic “clear zone” so that the car is free to careen wherever it wants without hitting anything solid. Squishy things within the clear zone, such as pedestrians, don’t enter into consideration.

In other words, one important “advantage” of these “liquid trees” over real trees is that they can be mounted on breakaway stands, so that they yield (and therefore provide no protection to any hapless bastard who might’ve been sitting on the bench at the time) when a car hits them.

Source: I’m a former traffic engineer. But don’t take it from me; watch this confession from a much more experienced and credible engineer explaining it in even more stark terms.

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2 points

Is that why there are so many metal poles next to roads?

Sounds to me like that is a US-centric issue.

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2 points

I’m not sure if these scientists understand a lot of the reasons why trees are nice.

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32 points

Why do you assume it’s not the reporting that’s stupid?

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Because it is perfectly in line with our society’s continuous descent into a post apocalyptic wasteland?

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29 points

That’s capitalists not scientists. Scientists make bridges possible, capitalists charge you to cross them.

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61 points

Well Trees don’t make as much money for rich people who own everything and Trees make hot days more comfortable for homeless people

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33 points

Algea is a much much better oxygenator with lower maintainence, people don’t seem to notice how fast cities can kill trees.

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16 points

You don’t need to put algae in cities. They can be basically anywhere to absorb CO2.

Trees in cities tend to be carefully chosen for the environment. Are we in a climate where we need to put salt on the road in the winter? Choose trees that can tolerate some salt in the ground.

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3 points

Maybe stop putting salt down in winter??? Who does that still they need to stop.

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My major metropolitan City kills New trees literally every year.

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7 points

We keep killing the ocean then asking why we need those stupid plants.

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8 points

My first thought is you can embedd this inside buildings rather trivially

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1 point

Walls made out of these would be cool

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1 point

even so, I bet the billionaires were ecstatic about how it doesn’t give any shade on hot days

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9 points

And the oceans are incredibly vast, so they provide most of the world’s oxygen! Obviously it’s hard to get a precise number but 50-70% is the accepted range.

There are many reasons to plant trees in the city but local oxygen supply isn’t one of them. Mostly trees look nice, and make people feel better by their presence. They also have a significant cooling effect, something a steamy tank full of warm algae definitely won’t help with on a summer day.

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4 points

Local oxygenation is important, conversion at the source pretty much always is.

Moreover it doesn’t at all imply in lue of trees and importantly oxygenate at the same rate day and night since they’re independently lit ideally 24/7/365.

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I think it has more to do with the fact trees require more maintenance, like raking up leaves and fruit, and having to saw off branches.

Also those roots can break pavement and pipes.

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7 points

You really think those massive, experimental water tanks won’t require more maintenance, because you have to trim trees once ever few years? Or because their roots might grow too much?

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Ok, I like trees as much as the next person, and much prefer them over these algae tanks.

But what about these “massive experimental water tanks” do you think will damage the infrastructure beneath and around it like tree roots do?

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For now, no. In the near future, probably

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Well of course, you can’t give working class people any money for working, you can only give them a slave-wage. That’s why all manufacturing was outsourced to very underdeveloped countries when NAFTA was first put into place.

You can easily get away with exploiting people who have no other choice but to work for a dollar per year, but it’s much more difficult to do that to someone’s neighbor in their community.

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We just have to remove the roof from that thing so it won’t be shadowy, and make a wall in the bottom so it can’t be used to lay down.

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People can grow trees. You need a lot more to make one of those contraptions. Hard to control people when they can just grow a plant to do what they need.

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13 points

All these people being like “why don’t we just use trees” as if the capitalists could profit from them like this. And not to say this is cost efficient, of course planting a tree would be better for everyone, but whoever installs these things will have a contract guaranteeing them money that taxpayers will be told is being put toward green initiatives and so will be eager to part with it I guess

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Do you think that trees don’t require money to upkeep?

Plus, they fuck up any infrastructure they’re around, so that money is going to contractors anyway.

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1 point

Shhhh, thinking about things past the barest surface level scares the tankies.

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