It’s Joever for the Democrats no lie. I know polls are still pretty even and something could happen to give them a shot in the arm but honestly all the videos I’ve been watching and conversations I’ve been having IRL are just pointing to a complete anti-Democrat vibe. Watching a few videos that are saying the same thing and it could just be algorithm bias but idk. I don’t even mean just for 2024 election like long term this party is fucked. I used to think they were going to be bent over and moved out of the way by the Republicans (consequently establishing a further fascist government) because Dems are spineless but they’re actually doing such a terrible job that they’re going to get voted out and allow the Republicans to further fascist-ize the US if that’s even possible.
I’m low-key here for it, going to be interesting but I’m very scared for marginalized people and the proleys in general.
It’s okay they’ll just blame Black people for not voting instead of coming up with any sort of comprehensive plan that actually matches our interests
Noo you OWE the Democrats your vote to prevent FASCISM and if you DON’T vote for us you actually are to blame for the further oppression of your people (which will happen under us, too)
If you don’t vote for this shitty party then the other one will make things even worse and also you have no other choice and also we are the greatest democracy the world has ever seen and also skill issue bootstraps you can’t shoot your way to liberation!!!
- signed with my totally anti-racist condolences, thoughts, and prayers, the liberal state
Be prepared for more bamboozlement under the guise of journalism. Understand that Black politics will not be part of any discussion. Making it so would create a problem for people whose goal is to win office while also excluding the people whose votes they need. Media are an important part of sham democracy. No one should expect anything more than, “But Trump!” between now and November 2024. – Margaret Kimberley
They’re literally already telling the left to fuck off and simultaneously already blaming us for their loss a full calander year from now.
Clown show, the lot of them. Well for us it’s been the same no matter who’s in office so I couldn’t care any less, the real pearl clutching will come from the libs
For me, this started in the aftermath of the Trump presidency, and the absolute denial and non-engagement of the Democratic party to self-examine their own actions that led to defeat, such as blocking Sanders to promote an unpopular Clinton, blaming everything on their voters, kicking and screaming, and then of course four years later fucking Sanders again.
I heard a good podcast with historia publica yesterday, and he said it excellently: when there’s crisis, the youth wants to radicalize, but unfortunately, in our countries you are not allowed to radicalize left, only to radicalize right. (I’m paraphrasing).
In like 2018 pod Jons started an entire new series about litigating the previous election. Their big idea a progressive candidate who is even more progressive, cooler, hipper than Bernie. They declared Kamala as the perfect candidate.
If the US is around long enough, we might see a different party rise to take their place in the two party system, just like the republicans did with the Whigs.
It’d probably a hardcore libertarian party or something, wouldn’t it?
Democrats will stop pretend8ng and just be the republican party under Bush with people like romeny, Liz Cheyney, and Pelosi working together.
Well have an actual far right party and an actual fascist party.
And liberals will still tell you you have to vote for Romney because otherwise Eric Trump will win.
This has been the ratchet effect of the Democratic party for the last 40 years, ever since Clinton’s triangulation.
Yeah there was a meme on the lib-space the other day about how you have to hold your nose and VOTE (hoping for a future more progressive dem) or you’ll lose the chance to vote forever.
But if you follow the logic to its end-point, the meme fails. Since the DNC picks your D candidate, and D is the only one you can vote for forever, are you really voting for a future you can look forward to now? Is there even a point when one side is a hand-picked quiet fascist and the other is a loud obnoxious fascist?
Also they’ve used that argument before right before they lost the easiest election of the last century by refusing to even acknowledge progressives.
Than 4 years later that guy got voted out.
Seems like they’re not being totally accurate in their analysis. Also after the whole “vote for the shitty candidate this time and maybe they’ll be more progressive next time” is ringing a little hollow after about the 5th or 6th round of it.
The other meme of theirs that turned out to be bullshit was “the democrats will be easier to work with” While that may be true in a vaccum, what actually happened is that all the liberals went back to brunch, leaving very few to oppose the new style of fascism that took over.
Liberals made it clear they’ll only fight if their lives (and theirs alone) are threatened. The instant they’re not, they lose all political animus.
the dems die, the republicans split into mitt romney republicans (they get nearly all the dem voters automatically) and trumpers.
and you get a republican vs republican (new) election
Would finally bring the US in line with the rest of the west circa maybe 60-70 years ago if they finally did that. But I don’t really see much of a labour movement over there.
US labor movement is growing rapidly and getting increasingly radical, but that is in relation to a very low water mark in both respects
In a world that needs to evolve or die, a party that’s got a more conservative culture than the actual Conservative opposition is fundamentally doomed tbh
