An attorney for Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, had urged the eight-person jury to “send a message” with its verdict.
Rudy Giuliani should pay a pair of Georgia election workers he repeatedly and falsely accused of fraud $148 million in damages, a federal jury said Friday.
The eight-person jury awarded Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, the sum after a four-day trial, during which they testified that Giuliani’s lies in support of former President Donald Trump’s bogus stolen-election claims subjected them to a torrent of racist and violent threats and turned their lives upside down.
Freeman testified Wednesday that she was terrorized by Trump supporters and forced to move from her home because of Giuliani’s smears. “I was scared to come home at dark, you know,” a visibly emotional Freeman said on the witness stand. “I was just scared, I knew I had to move.”
Has Alex Jones paid out a penny yet?
Will Rudy?
These guys seem to be able to ignore these judgements with impunity.
I am shocked that his attorney acknowledged wrongdoing. That’ll fuck any appeal attempts.
Rudy probably can’t pay that anyway, he’s been in a bad way financially for a while now.
Rudy took a private plane to turn himself in in Georgia this summer. An article I read mentioned he has an apartment in Manhattan listed on the market for $6.1M. Now, I doubt he’s got $148M, but he’s not dead fucking broke like he’s trying to claim. At least not yet.
No you misunderstand, his nonprofit foundation was selling his manhattan apartment for 6.1m. He controls the foundation but that money can’t be taken away.
I haven’t actually looked it up to see if he even owned the apartment he lived in, but there are many ways to shelter controlled assets in ways that minimize liability and tax burdens on the person who controls them. These mechanisms are a big part of the reason why rich people don’t pay taxes. Instead they donate their earnings or claim losses on stock transactions.
If you donate a million dollars of your assets to your foundation while simultaneously earning a million dollars in cash from business dealings- how much tax do you pay? $0. Million in pocket, million dollar asset sheltered and still in your control. Your foundation control can be passed from generation to generation…
Keep in mind his foundation can “employ” him and provide lodgings to him and other reasonable expenses (e.g. food, travel, lodging… you know… the things we all toil away to earn money and pay 30%+ taxes for.)
You would have to wonder if he was a just a regular Joe blow fellow if he would be in jail in till he could pay?
Debtors prisons are not something society should go back to. IIRC, this is a civil case, so, no jail. He should be in jail, but that isn’t in the cards until he’s convicted criminally.
If the money you owe is child support, debtors prisons are a thing right now. Also, during the hearing where the judge decides to put you in jail, you’ve no right to an attorney.
Of course this is more expensive than just giving benefits to single mothers, and children gain no advantage by having fathers in jail, but cruelty is the point.
Alex filed for bankruptcy, so he hasn’t paid anything yet. The families recently said they’d settle for 6% but I haven’t seen anything since.
No Jones declared bankruptcy and Infowars is on the chopping block to get liquidated, after that they’ll go back to court to seek liquidation of his personal assets, homes, cars, watches Etc.
He’ll have to squeeze a whole lot of crude oil from his head to cover that.
Nine figures, baby. Suck it, Ghoul.
He doesn’t like losers checks 45s court cases in recent years lol. For a guy that doesn’t like losing, he’s not President, least for now. I truly hope people come out to vote again like last time. Not my country but it’d be nice to have stability for democracy from the country with the strongest military.
“After the verdict, Giuliani said he didn’t testify because he was worried the judge would find him in contempt, and complained that he hadn’t been allowed to enter evidence that his allegations were true, despite his not having turned over any such evidence before trial”
Just wow. Guess there’s a difference between what you’re willing to tell a reporter on the street and what you’re willing to tell the judge in court?
If I’m reading this correctly, Rudy had “evidence” but the court had ruled it inadmissible.
I mean, I have a document right now that says Rudy Giuliani is the zodiac killer. Signed by Jesus and everything.
Don’t mean it will hold up in court where there are procedures.
It’s the same in Trump’s trial. He was barred from using his “buyer beware” clause as an argument because it doesn’t hold legal water.
He acknowledged in his closing argument that “my client has committed wrongful conduct against” the pair and had “harmed” them, but asked the jury to keep in mind the good Giuliani had done in his lifetime.
He told them the message he believed they should send is, “You should have been better, but you’re not as bad as the plaintiffs are making you out to be.”
This has to be the worst closing argument ever. This might work if say, a teacher commits a drink driving offense, or a crosswalk attendant steals some laundry detergent, but “think of all the good” that this sycophant did in his life is just going to inspire heavier penalties.
But look at it from the defense’s perspective. He’s guilty AF and there’s no denying it. What play could that make other than to try a humanitarian appeal? It’s pretty clearly not going to work, but as his defense council they have to try.
I hope they get to seize his houses and they move in right away.
