An attorney for Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, had urged the eight-person jury to “send a message” with its verdict.

Rudy Giuliani should pay a pair of Georgia election workers he repeatedly and falsely accused of fraud $148 million in damages, a federal jury said Friday.

The eight-person jury awarded Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, the sum after a four-day trial, during which they testified that Giuliani’s lies in support of former President Donald Trump’s bogus stolen-election claims subjected them to a torrent of racist and violent threats and turned their lives upside down.

Freeman testified Wednesday that she was terrorized by Trump supporters and forced to move from her home because of Giuliani’s smears. “I was scared to come home at dark, you know,” a visibly emotional Freeman said on the witness stand. “I was just scared, I knew I had to move.”

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON — Rudy Giuliani should pay a pair of Georgia election workers he repeatedly and falsely accused of fraud $148 million in damages, a federal jury said Friday.

The eight-person jury awarded Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, the sum after a four-day trial, during which they testified that Giuliani’s lies in support of former President Donald Trump’s bogus stolen-election claims subjected them to a torrent of racist and violent threats and turned their lives upside down.

Their attorney, Michael Gottlieb, said in his closing argument that Giuliani had “no right to offer up defenseless civil servants up to a virtual mob in order to overturn an election.” He urged the jurors to “send a message” with their verdict.

In his opening statement, Giuliani attorney Joseph Sibley said a large verdict would be the “civil equivalent of the death penalty” for his client.

He acknowledged in his closing argument that “my client has committed wrongful conduct against” the pair and had “harmed” them, but asked the jury to keep in mind the good Giuliani had done in his lifetime.

U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell in August found Giuliani liable for defaming the pair after the defendant repeatedly snubbed court orders to turn over required evidence to Freeman and Moss.


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Nine figures, baby. Suck it, Ghoul.

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I’m sure #45 will gladly cover it for him, NOT. LoL

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He doesn’t like losers checks 45s court cases in recent years lol. For a guy that doesn’t like losing, he’s not President, least for now. I truly hope people come out to vote again like last time. Not my country but it’d be nice to have stability for democracy from the country with the strongest military.

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The dildo of consequences has finally arrived.

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Glad to see it. I’m curious as to what that means practically. Does the court have the ability to force him to pay or can he just drag his feet indefinitely?

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He’ll probably appeal it, and he doesn’t have the money anyway. Might move to Florida to protect his pension from being garnished.

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Might move to Florida to protect his pension

Maybe he can be roommates with O.J.

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He still does apparently at least have millions in assets though. And that sweet pension.

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Ultimately the courts can force him to pay some of it if he has any real property or other assets or income. But that will likely require more work on the part of the plaintiffs here to collect. It’ll probably only be a fraction of what is owed, and then part of that is attorneys fees.

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Has Alex Jones paid out a penny yet?

Will Rudy?

These guys seem to be able to ignore these judgements with impunity.

I am shocked that his attorney acknowledged wrongdoing. That’ll fuck any appeal attempts.

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Rudy probably can’t pay that anyway, he’s been in a bad way financially for a while now.

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Rudy took a private plane to turn himself in in Georgia this summer. An article I read mentioned he has an apartment in Manhattan listed on the market for $6.1M. Now, I doubt he’s got $148M, but he’s not dead fucking broke like he’s trying to claim. At least not yet.

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No you misunderstand, his nonprofit foundation was selling his manhattan apartment for 6.1m. He controls the foundation but that money can’t be taken away.

I haven’t actually looked it up to see if he even owned the apartment he lived in, but there are many ways to shelter controlled assets in ways that minimize liability and tax burdens on the person who controls them. These mechanisms are a big part of the reason why rich people don’t pay taxes. Instead they donate their earnings or claim losses on stock transactions.

If you donate a million dollars of your assets to your foundation while simultaneously earning a million dollars in cash from business dealings- how much tax do you pay? $0. Million in pocket, million dollar asset sheltered and still in your control. Your foundation control can be passed from generation to generation…

Keep in mind his foundation can “employ” him and provide lodgings to him and other reasonable expenses (e.g. food, travel, lodging… you know… the things we all toil away to earn money and pay 30%+ taxes for.)

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6 points

Drain the swamp, man! Drain the Swamp Man!

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You would have to wonder if he was a just a regular Joe blow fellow if he would be in jail in till he could pay?

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No. Genuinely poor people are what the legal world refers to as judgment proof. Best you can do is garnish wages, which I doubt Rudy has any. You can also put a lien on property, but if they don’t have any, you get nothing.

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Debtors prisons are not something society should go back to. IIRC, this is a civil case, so, no jail. He should be in jail, but that isn’t in the cards until he’s convicted criminally.

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If the money you owe is child support, debtors prisons are a thing right now. Also, during the hearing where the judge decides to put you in jail, you’ve no right to an attorney.

Of course this is more expensive than just giving benefits to single mothers, and children gain no advantage by having fathers in jail, but cruelty is the point.

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Alex filed for bankruptcy, so he hasn’t paid anything yet. The families recently said they’d settle for 6% but I haven’t seen anything since.

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He filed for bankruptcy but last I heard the bankruptcy court found his judgement in the Sandy Hook case couldn’t be discharged through bankruptcy. So he still owes. It’ll just be a long drawn out affair to chase down his hidden assets.

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No Jones declared bankruptcy and Infowars is on the chopping block to get liquidated, after that they’ll go back to court to seek liquidation of his personal assets, homes, cars, watches Etc.

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Sure. Any day now.

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Court isn’t fast, most waive speedy trial anyway.

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