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Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Sam Altman for those who don’t want to click through.

And I have no idea which I would choose to face off from those four, let alone who would win.

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To make things slightly easier it’s Musk v Thiel and Bezos v Altman.

In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.

In the second matchup I would pick Bezos for the larger impact he has had on the world.

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I’m with you on the second, but I would have a really hard time with the first because Musk is more overtly a piece of shit, but Thiel has had so much influence over the years, including elevating Elon Musk to the position where he is today. I guess if it’s the worst of 2023 and we’re restricting it solely to what we know they’ve said and done in 2023, it would be Musk. But I think overall, it is probably Thiel just because there wouldn’t be an Elon Musk anyone had heard about without Peter Thiel.

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3 points

This is the 2023 matchup, so I guess it would put Musk on top

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17 points

In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.

But Musk’s acquisition of Twitter is in itself subservient to Theil’s overarching political goals. One has been in the limelight more, but the other has caused more harm overall.

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This is the 2023 matchup. You don’t consider Jordan’s performance at UNC when determining their championship status this year. Heck, despite the past damage done, i don’t think. Bezos, for his 2023 tech fuckery, should have made it out of the first round.

By the same metric, Musk easily tops Thiel first 2023 and is the clear shoo-in as champion of the worst.

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20 points

No matter who wins we all lose. That’s kind of the point whenever these guys turn up.

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5 points

Well, and sadly, said.

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0 points

Musk.

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2 points

What did Thiel do to make the internet hate him as much as the other three?

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32 points

So, so, so many things.

Let’s start with him saying women getting the vote was bad for democracy and we can continue on from there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n_5747079be4b03ede4413f6f5

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17 points

It’s a full time job to answer completely, but from what I know he finances escape fantasies for the rich which they call seasteading. He calls it a libertarian ideal to create these new colonial city states, but what he means is liberty for his ilk from taxes, regulation and societal rules. Meanwhile his brainchild Palantir erodes the rights of the poor people who are left behind through surveillance, military technology and ICE funding. But this is all in line with his ideology, because apartheid “works” in South Africa according to Thiel

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105 points

You could put them in a sack and hit the sack with a stick. You’d never hit the wrong guy.

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32 points

I like this idea much better than picking one of them as the worst person in tech for 2023. Can we do the stick beating instead?

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But we definitely need to have Zuck in there too. And maybe Thiel, as a special guest.

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16 points

Could I? Yayyyy!

Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack.

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Theil wants a techno libertarian oligarchy with no regulations ala Blade Runner.

Musk wants the rich to escape to Mars while destroying earth and dooming the poor’s.

Bezos wants to send the poor’s into space along with heavy industry and turn earth into a rich person paradise ala Black Mirror “Fifteen Million Merits”.

Altman is just a shitty rich person in tech wasting precious resources to teach a computer to create porn. Becaue we all know that’s what 99% of people do and will use AI for. He’s also a prepper which means he’s a selfish cunt.

If I had to pick just one it would be Theil. I think the man is insidious while the rest are more in your face.

Ranked choice would be Theil, Musk, Bezos then Altman.

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4 points

I love your descriptions for all of them. If you have some free time would you mind writing it for everyone in the brackets?

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2 points

I’m shocked that Sam Altman won out over SBF

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1 point

SBF hasn’t been in the headlines as much recently.

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2 points

Sam Bankman-Fried is definitely bad for what he did and his belief in effective altruism, which is just another smoke screen to not properly tax rich people because they “donate to charities”. You could argue his getting into crypto also makes him bad because crypto mining is bad but he’s not on the same level as Sam Altman. Not even close.

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5 points

Why do people hate Altman? Genuinely OOTL.

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15 points

He’s not really as bad as the other three, but he did take a nonprofit company and turn it into a multibillion dollar profit machine which has a massive carbon and fresh water footprint.

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10 points

Also some view ChatGPT (and the other “AIs”) as massive plagiarism machines.

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His world coin project is one of the sketchiest. Paying people in poor countries to get scanned by this creepy orb thing? Odd.

His sister has also vociferously accused him of molesting her for a period of time when she was 4 and he was 13.

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4 points

How is every bracket not Elon Musk?

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20 points

That’s not how brackets work?

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Gee, I wonder how this will end if lemmy gets to vote.

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6 points

Do you mind? We’re trying to have a circlejerk here.

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Final match should have been between Zuckerfuk and incElon

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incElon

The one thing he (unfortunately) isn’t, is celibate, lmao.

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I think it’s more about his sick mentality in general, and not about if he can eventually bribe a woman to be his living incubator.

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1 point

At what point does that word lose all meaning?

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Of the four I’ll take Bezos. Elon says controversial stuff but most of his businesses are legit. He owns Twitter now but he didn’t create that monster. Altman opened up a can of worms with AI but I do believe he initially had some good intentions with it. I don’t even know who Peter Thiel is. Bezos is just an evil corporate suit and Amazon will do anything for money.

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4 points

Bezos isn’t even involved in Amazon anymore.

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9 points

He’s executive chair of the board of directors, what are you talking about?

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4 points

Jassy is the one steering the boat now, and it’s been rechristened as the SS No More Innovation

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Thiel is associated with musk, and a pretty awful guy in his own right. The short version is he’s a billionaire techno-fascist that funds political campaigns for people like Trump. Here’s a video for more stuff about him if you’re curious.

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